How do I apply effects please(yes, I checked the manual)

Randy Brown wrote on 10/10/2002, 4:28 PM

Hi all,
I have a 56 minute project with 2 video track fx and 3 audio track fx. This is the first time I've used *track* fx and when I start to print to tape it appears it's going to take 4 + hours. I'm guessing this is due to processing the real time fx and that I should apply the fx (volume envelopes,compressor,enhancer on audio and brightness/contrast and color balance on video)before print to tape? Problem is, I can't find anything in the manual on how to do this. Your help is always appreciated!
Thanks,
Randy

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Chienworks wrote on 10/10/2002, 4:44 PM

Just let the print to tape operation proceed on it's own. That extra time you're seeing is the time needed to prerender the entire video in preparation for printing it to tape. If you're using a DV camcorder for the recording then Vegas will start it automatically when it's ready. If you're outputting to some device that needs manual control, you'll have to come back after a while (or next morning when you wake up) and start it recording. Vegas will tell you when it's ready and wait for you.

Your other option is to render to a .avi file first, then print that rendered file.

Randy Brown wrote on 10/10/2002, 4:58 PM

Thank you Chienworks,
So 4 hours is not abnormal for an hour long project (with a 1.73 ghz AMD Athlon and 512 mb RAM)? I ask because it only took about 4 minutes before adding the effects.
Thanks again,
Randy

taliesin wrote on 10/10/2002, 5:07 PM

You have two video track effects applied and three audio effects. This probably means the fx affect your whole project (in length). Even only two video tracks fx could mean there a 56 x 2 = 112 minutes of video to encode with fx.
For this 4 hours encoding time is not that much.

Marco

swarrine wrote on 10/10/2002, 5:08 PM

If you applied effects to the entire video, such as color correction, yes it will take a long time. If you just have a couple of transitions, 4 hrs seems too long.

As Chienworks says, you basically can just set it and forget it.

Randy Brown wrote on 10/10/2002, 5:38 PM

Thanks guys,
Well maybe I won't forget to do a white balance next time.
Thanks again,
Randy

Chienworks wrote on 10/10/2002, 8:36 PM

On my 866P3 that would probably take about 15 hours, so 4 hours sounds pretty nice to me ;)

vicmilt wrote on 10/10/2002, 11:04 PM

I personally like prerendering the show before printing to tape. That way, if I find a couple of little changes, I can simply cut (slice) the finished track and make the corrections. The final render will be super fast (well, relatively), and you suffer no quality loss (right guys???)

In fact, on my last project, I actually began to prerender sections well in advance of the final project completion. I keep them in a separate folder that I call Output. As I eliminate early versions of the prerenders, I can find and eliminate them easily from the Output folder.

Randy Brown wrote on 10/11/2002, 10:19 AM

Thanks everyone, I took Chienworks advice and let it render while I slept (without fretting). If there are any Canon XL1 owners reading this: the manual states to set the white balance manually, turn the knob to manual, push the button (focused on a white piece of paper)and then switch back to the automatic setting. Does this sound right to you? It seems that would let the camera decide what is white again, no? I would go try it again but this project I had the problem with is in a concert hall and access could be a problem.

Thanks again everyone,
Randy

jetdv wrote on 10/11/2002, 10:47 AM

On the XL-1, to manually white balance, the line on the knob should point to the white balance button. Then, point to a white area and push the button until the blinking icon in the window stops blinking. Then DO NOTHING ELSE - your white balance has been set. If you move the knob back to pointing to "A", the camera will do automatic white balancing.

We DO change it back to "A" if we have to go to another room (or outside) to quickly shoot something. As soon as we return, we move it back to pointing to the white balance button. As a side note, it will remember the LAST white balance adjustment. Just move it back and forth between "A" and pointing to the white balance button while looking in the eyepiece. You can see it changing back and forth.

Randy Brown wrote on 10/11/2002, 2:28 PM

Pasted from the manual: c) Turn the white balance selector knob back to A to return to the auto setting. Push the knob back in when you have finished making selections.
As usual, user error on my part! The keyword being "to *return* to auto setting".
Thanks jetdv,
Randy