How do the jokes + delivery sound in this Vegas-edited clip?

ken c wrote on 2/14/2005, 1:42 AM
Hi - here's the first (rough!) draft of a promo video I've been working on all day in Vegas... what do you all think?

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http://www.MegaSeminar.com
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It's my best video work yet, I just did it in one really long session, it's 2:45 am here, been working since 10am on it... going to bed now..

And thanks Spot re tip on making cuts on consonants, you can see I did that with intro credits and the "Kick Their Ass" joke midway thru the clip :-)

It's a 16.5 meg download, I'll be doing a streaming version tomorrow or Wednesday that will be clearer, sorry this one's a bit rough... appreciate any feedback:

It's my best video work yet .. nonstop all day on it.. the streaming one will look sharper... this is a rough cut.. let me know what you think ..

Any tips on did I do ok w/the choice of sets and my video approach?


thanks fellow Vegas users/videographers,

Ken

http://www.MegaSeminar.com

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ken c wrote on 2/15/2005, 3:35 AM
Hi all, just re-did it, any comments/feedback? much appreciated:

www.megaseminar.com

edited in vegas, my best video promo spot yet.. still needs work, funny jokes in a couple of spots, check it out..

ken
Edward wrote on 2/15/2005, 4:01 AM
"hey, what's that sound?"

couldn't stop lauging when you said 'kick their *ss'. You don't look the type to say it like that.

BTW, breathe a little. other than that, good job.

Ed
TomE wrote on 2/15/2005, 6:58 AM
Billy Blanks better watch out!

I agree --take a breath once in a while.


Is this for real or is this a paraody?

Sorry I had to ask

Tom
RafalK wrote on 2/15/2005, 7:19 AM
Off Topic, but Tom, give me a call, I have something you might be interested in doing.
ken c wrote on 2/15/2005, 8:11 AM
yeah problem is I'm up in colorado, so I'm more short of breath here, just moved here from hawaii last year... (any ideas?).. less air up here in the mountains than what I'm used to seaside..

thx for the comments.. :P

Tom, it's for real, it'll be a successful seminar series, coming mid July to Denver.. am getting speakers lined up etc.


ken
rs170a wrote on 2/15/2005, 9:20 AM
Looks really good Ken. Congratulations. The backgrounds are very nice :-)
A few comments though.
If it was me, I'd do away with the turns at the end of some segments as I find them a bit distracting. My (personal) feeling is that the fast dissolves (I'd be tempted to speed up the dissolve a bit more or just use a cut) work much better.
At the 2:00 mark (Hey! What's that tinkling...), I found the zoom out distracting after the other transitions. I'd rather go with a cut/dissolve to your cover shot.
As far as the "kick their ass" line, I'd shoot that scene 3 times. The first time on the cover shot and then tighten it more and more again on the 2nd and 3rd times. On the third time, complete the scene. Then, when you're editing, you'd cut on each word to go from a cover to a medium close-up in 3 quick steps.
Finally, I found the "Denver Colorado" title at the end of the clip a bit hard to read. I'm sure it would stand out on better a TV but on a computer monitor, it's more difficult to make out.

Mike
busterkeaton wrote on 2/15/2005, 11:28 AM
Ken,

One thing I have noticed in your videos, is that videos in the background are really busy and fast. So this is where the viewer tends to focus. You end up looking almost entirely at the background.

You may be intending that because they other visuals are somewhat dry, but I just want you to be aware of that.
PierreB wrote on 2/15/2005, 12:28 PM
You've obviously attained "master" status in the editing department... I could think of nothing useful to say in that respect.

But my day job has me doing focus groups to evaluate commercials/advertising. If I'd done groups on this one, I think respondents would have said, "Great job, here's some areas to consider:"

1. I'd look at the length with a view to shortening it

2. The talent has become more relaxed since the first one you shared with us... have you considered going the extra mile with an acting coach... I bet he/she would have some invaluable tricks for you (breathing, hand movements, eye movement, etc.)

3. Although I found the toilet humour funny, as a marketer I have to express doubts about its appropriateness in a public message

4. Ditto the comment in the first cut I viewed that said something like, "It's so simple that even my wife got it." I have strong reservations about the effectiveness of a statement like that: although some people may find it funny, a whole bunch more will not and will write off the remainder of your message out of anger.

My (CDN) 2 cents... thanks for sharing.

Pierre
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 2/15/2005, 1:37 PM
I'd suggest that you did a great job.

I would however agree with Peter about the things he said to consider. (I'm going to school for marketing and in terms of the numbers 3 and 4 : I'd get docked pretty good for those statements for the stated reasons)

Also I would suggest trying for a little more inflection in your voice - you sound excited - but not overly sincere? or something - can't quite put my finger on it, and breathing more might take care of it too).

Dave
ken c wrote on 2/15/2005, 2:36 PM
Hi - thanks, will take to heart the comments... my trading videos are much more "straight", eg www.daytradingu.com/videotheater.htm ... with the marketing and sales crowd, that niche tends to like things "off the wall" and upbeat a bit more. ... only used wife so I could do lead-in to the "bad marketer" bit of slapstick ...

"humor is tough to get right", good points...

will do re coach.. I've bought all the "how to act in commercials" books for actors from Amazon, will do w/my presentation coach too, to get her feedback ...

excellent, thx for the comments, it's good to know where I "miss it" as well as hit, w/audience..

Ken