How to get Time Dispaly to update while dragging?

ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/3/2003, 12:29 PM
Is there a way to get the Time Display to continually upate when I drag the end of a clip?

I'm trying to drag the end of a clip to a SPECIFIC point (time) on the timline. I want to watch the Time Display roll as I drag the end of the clip, but the Time Display doesn't roll as I extend the clip, instead it's just frozen on the time corresponding to the current cursor point.

So what I'm forced to do is:

1. Drag the end of a clip.
2. Click on the timeline that corresponds with the end of the clip I just dragged.
3. View the Time Display to see how close I got.
4. Zoom in view to get closer
5. Repeat steps 2-5 until I get it to the specific point on the timeline.

I know I'm missing something, because if this is the only way that it can be done...well, I just don't want to say.

Comments

jetdv wrote on 8/3/2003, 1:53 PM
Put the cursor on the time where you want the clip to end. Drag the end of the clip to the cursor.
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/3/2003, 2:47 PM
That is helpful for what I'm trying to do (thank you), but it doesn't answer my question.
GaryKleiner wrote on 8/3/2003, 3:23 PM
>That is helpful for what I'm trying to do (thank you), but it doesn't answer my question.<

Edward's answer was beyond "helpful". It was difinitive.
The time code readout does not update as you drag event edges. Is that the answer you are looking for?

Are there other reasons why you would like to see this happen? It would be confusing as the readout always reflects the current cursor position.

Gary
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/3/2003, 3:45 PM
Sorry VidGuy, but Jet's answer was not a "difinitive' answer to my question, "Is there a way to get the Time Display to continually upate when I drag the end of a clip?"

I'm aware that the "timecode readout does not update as you drag events". I experienced it first hand and that's why I asked the question in the first place.

The reasons WHY I would like to see it happen is simple. If it worked as I suggested you could simply drag the end of a clip and watch the Time Display until it was at the correct position (time), then stop dragging. Simple. One step vs two or more.

As it is now, it is VERY difficult less confusing. Maybe a solution would be a key + drag combination to temporarily override the Time Display to show the current end position while you drag the clip.

BillyBoy wrote on 8/3/2003, 4:29 PM
What is or isn't a definitive answer in soley in the eys of the person asking the question.

A few posters typically make short sometimes condescending like answers leaving the impression the person replying was annoyed that the person asked something he should have already known. Others like me maybe sometimes go on and on. Persoanlly I rather error by giving more information than asked for as opposed to sometimes cryptic or incomplete responses. Remember... we ALL were newbies once.

My pet peeve is people asking a question in terms of I use "P" why don't Vegas do such and such this way? I find that annoying since this isn't the "P" forum, its the Vegas forum.
BillyBoy wrote on 8/3/2003, 4:39 PM
For Zippy:

If you haven't discovered it on your own yet, you can customize Vegas via a semi-secret method. Go to Options, then Preferences. While Pressing down and holding the Shift Key (first) now select Preferences with your left mouse and a new tab called INTERNAL is added. Scroll down the extensive list. While you can change many things do so at your own risk, since some will change things you don't want to change.

Also while not exactly what you're looking for you can do this.

Select a range on the timeline by moving over the top of the timeline changing the cursor to a double headed arrow, As you drag while holding down your mouse note that the two info windows at the bottom right of the track area is updated in real time relative to how much of the timeline you select.

May come in handy for other things.
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/3/2003, 5:15 PM
BillyBoy. Your time selection suggestion will do the trick. Thank you. But it still would be nice to just be able to drag the end of the clip. Again, it would make it a one step process instead of a two or three step.

I guess it just can't be done the way I wish it could be done.
ricklaut wrote on 8/3/2003, 8:25 PM
BillyBoy -

Great tip - never knew that existed!

I'm afraid to dabble too much, but saw one thing that may be of use. Do you have any idea what the possibilities are with the "Use Multi Monitor API's" field? I have multiple monitors and am curious.

Thanks!

Rick
GaryKleiner wrote on 8/3/2003, 8:55 PM
>The reasons WHY I would like to see it happen is simple. If it worked as I suggested you could simply drag the end of a clip and watch the Time Display until it was at the correct position (time), then stop dragging.<

First off, if I came off as condescending, sorry, that was not my intent.

I am trying to find out what you find valuable, or in what instance is it desirable to drag out a clip to a speccific timecode.

Gary
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/3/2003, 9:09 PM
For instance if the clip ends at 30 seconds and I want to DRAG the end of the clip so it ends at 45 seconds.
GaryKleiner wrote on 8/3/2003, 9:23 PM
>For instance if the clip ends at 30 seconds and I want to DRAG the end of the clip so it ends at 45 seconds. <

My question to you remains WHY would you decide that the clip should end at 45 seconds?

In most instances, edit points are determined by the content of the event.
If you are doing a spot with a specific running time, I could see prolonging an event for an extra second or two to fill it out to length, but I don't get the impression that is what you are doing.

Gary
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/4/2003, 1:51 AM
Gary,

All I'm asking is if it is possible. If it isn't, then tell me. Don't question WHY I or anybody else wants to do something a particular way. All I'm asking is can it be done the way I'd like to do it.
GaryKleiner wrote on 8/4/2003, 2:04 AM
>All I'm asking is if it is possible. If it isn't, then tell me. Don't question WHY I or anybody else wants to do something a particular way.<

I DID tell you.

I WILL continue to question why because if you have a technique I haven't thought of, I want learn about it. Isn't that why we are here?

If, on the other hand, you are just making up theoretical problems for no practical reason, then I will read your future questions with the weight they are due.
Gary
Randy Brown wrote on 8/4/2003, 8:44 AM
Point,set, match...Gary. No offense Zippy, but you did seem to be getting a little pissy.

That aside though, I was thinking there was a way that V4 would display the duration of a clip in real time while dragging it longer...no?
Thanks,
Randy
jetdv wrote on 8/4/2003, 8:58 AM
That aside though, I was thinking there was a way that V4 would display the duration of a clip in real time while dragging it longer...no?

Actually, yes you can. Open the Edit Details screen. The numbers on that screen change in REAL TIME as you resize a clip. You can also manually type in the length you want the clip to be.
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/4/2003, 10:06 AM
That's right Gary! I'm making up "theoretical problems for no practical reason" of which JetDV just SOLVED for "no apparent reason".

Thank you Jet DV!

Mr. Randy Brown, let's not forget this isn't a game. There aren't points to be scored nor trophies to hold high. It's a forum. For Nitwits like me to ask questions of which others in the forum can kindly answer according to their KNOWLEDGE of the specific subject.

Good day!
Randy Brown wrote on 8/4/2003, 10:16 AM
Thanks for the tip jet, I didn't realize that; I guess I was thinking of double-clicking an event and it displaying it's duration in the bottom right of timeline.
Randy
GaryKleiner wrote on 8/4/2003, 10:50 AM
>I'm making up "theoretical problems for no practical reason" of which JetDV just SOLVED for "no apparent reason".<

Solved what? You never asked about seeing the event duration as you are dragging it. You asked about dragging it to a specific time code.

Gary
Randy Brown wrote on 8/4/2003, 11:26 AM
All I was trying to say Zippy is that I think Gary was trying to help you and you were being a bit unappreciative. Hey man, I'm a "nitwit" too,and when these guys are going out of there way to try to help me, I'm going to treat them with all the respect I can muster, even if the advice does sound a little condescending to me. I know damned well that I don't have their patience, and wouldn't put up with your attitude.
Can't we all just get along...sniff, sniff.
And a good day to you too sir (sincerely),
Randy