Even with a 12900K and RTX4090, I'm stressing Vegas' composting preview abilities with multiple overlaid high res images, and am definitely looking for a timeline performance boost - but based on what you're saying, it seems like it might be best to wait until v23?

but based on what you're saying, it seems like it might be best to wait until v23?

To my private opinion - yes. At least, compared with VP21.

Okay. Might v22 offer any boost in this area - knowing you can’t guarantee anything?

I’ve spent ages trying to analyze just where the bottleneck I’m experiencing is, and it doesn’t seem to be CPU, GPU, memory, or storage I/O, leaving me to assume the issue is purely Vegas code-based.

@daniel-t Hi, I saw quite a big improvement with VP21 (300), VP18, 19 & 20 crashed quite a lot & struggled a bit with some media like HEVC GoPro files, since VP21 (300) I can honestly say VP now hardly ever crashes, render times decreased & HEVC play as well as AVC, for me it was a noticeable improvement.

If you can afford it I'd purchase that Humble offer, for that price it's hard to beat + VP21 has a few features that VP19 didn't have.

My main issue is that my current workloads are edge case usage of Vegas, basically manipulating dozens of composited high res images… so codec video playback performance improvements offer me little benefit. My issue is more in resizing and panning dozens of 4K or higher resolution PNGs in real time. Which isn’t actually stressing the hardware, mostly because V19 is making such poor use of hardware.

@daniel-t I don't know how many improvements have been made since VP21 (315) which was the last VP21 release, VP22 had it's initial release with VP22 then there were (122) & (194) updates (I think) but I feel that the biggest change came with VP21 (300). So you could try the VP22 free Trial & see how you get on, if it's better than VP19 you could gamble on the cheap Humble VP21 offer & see if it performs as well as the latest VP22. If the Trial isn't much better then wait for VP23 as mentioned..

Perhaps not in the sense of the thread creator, but overall the Humble offer is a very recommendable one, especially if you get further additions to the software park with Soundforge , MusicMaker and Moviestudio 24 (the latter also has a lot of pre-made media content).
Of course, Mocha and others are missing, but that affects everyone who chooses the edit version of Vegas.

No doubt it’s a great bundle. Probably the best / most current Humble has offered? Like, my Sound Forge version is 12.6, and I do actually use Music Maker but I’m running 2022 Premium (which is a bit of a misnomer because the core program updates to 2024, it’s just add-on features that lag behind).

No doubt it’s a great bundle. Probably the best / most current Humble has offered?

Yes it's a great bundle. After paying licensing fees I wonder if Magix make anything from it?

But don't overlook the fact that later versions of software often require higher resourced systems so if you are upgrading by several versions it's best to check that your system meets the minimum required specs.

I suspect they’re just trying to increase market share. Not a bad goal since Vegas is still very much the underdog.

My system’s a few years old but should be fine (specs in signature).

I've personally recommended this Humble Bundle offer for those looking to upgrade their "consumer" editing software. The price is right, you get 2 different editing software and music editing software.

And... since these are legitimate offers by Magix, down the road, if you want to upgrade to a future version of Vegas Pro, that option is now available.

@daniel-t for the budget minded upgrade from VP19, yeah, I'd go for it. You can have both versions and another type of editing software (MMS) on your computer. Sometimes, a template (MMS) can save you a lot of time. But, MMS can not handle 10bit anything... Magix has reserved that for Video Pro X on the Magix side of things.

So, Humble Bundle currently has a deal with software versions a lot more current than I normally expect. You get:

- Vegas Pro Edit 21 Perpetual License
- Sound Forge Pro 17 Perpetual License
- Music Maker Premium 2024

Plus a couple audio things for $32, and for another 40 cents Movie Studio 2024 Suite.

Any issues with the license codes from these? I’m still using V19, seems like a worthwhile upgrade (although I would prefer v22, but on a budget and everything).

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/vegas-pro-2024-software

MAGIX has done it again:
The package for 29€ :

Vegas Pro 2024

Over 15k sold.

I bought this bundle. For me the most stable versions are Vegas 21 build 187 and 208...

But with 208 I have always GPU Power DRAW something about 115w. With built 187 GPU is in IDLE!

I can't even render VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark. What a garbage,:(

While everyone is quick to blame the software, because we all know that it is never the computer or us, I wonder why so many others were able to render the benchmark and you weren't, and you are the first to report this that I am aware of?

Have you reset the program?

@Alex-Pitel if there is GPU draw, using Task Manager, is the GPU being used by Vegas at all?

Have you reset the program?\

Yes, I have reset!

No issues with this version of Vegas. But the more important question is, if you have points that you cannot do at the moment with your actual version.

Take into account, that it is an older version even by now. When the new video engine will be implemented with the next version fully, then this will be a significant benchmark really. But that may be just my 5 cents.

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This is the second post I read that assertion from you Wolfgang S. where you extended the timing of Derek's own declaration about this specific point.

VegasDerek himself only stated:
wrote on 10/26/2023, 12:32 AM
¨The entire rework of the video engine will take a very long time to complete. We plan to roll out improvements incrementally and we hope to have several improvements available before the maintenance cycle for VEGAS Pro 21 is over. The changes will continue into future for the next version of VEGAS as well.¨

It had been declared elsewhere that the new video engine deployment begun at version 20, while VegasDerek (if not Gary Rebholz) stated that its development was going to continue "for the next version of VEGAS" as just quoted and this happened at version 21 times.

///Following these official works and Magix situation back at 2024, I decided to upgrade to version 22. I only upgrade between relevant versions.
Now at almost February 2025, we read in this thread, the first whole affirmation (not a time extension) saying that the new video engine is going to be completed at version 23 ("the new video engine will be implemented with the next version fully") by Wolfgang S.
I hope VEGAS team completes that development in the actual version 22, as officially declared so far.