Hey Guys...
Please Look at this clip
https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/5a6a7c84-088f-4d95-b76f-636a9cb490b9
why VEGAS cannot be adaptable for this kind of media?
look what I face every time.
I have to transcode media files to start editing in VEGAS.
With due respect, I will suggest VEGAS Devs, at least make VEGAS show a message before importing media which can affect VEGAS workflow, which tell user about media condition and change media as per VEGAS needs with user consent.
I can observe the same thing as in the video, and Preferences -> File I/O -> Enable legacy AVC decoding should fix the problem.
With due respect, I will suggest VEGAS Devs, at least make VEGAS show a message before importing media which can affect VEGAS workflow, which tell user about media condition and change media as per VEGAS needs with user consent.
Actually there is, but it only alerts you to transcoding certain formats that are not suitable for efficient editing. Your video is a bug which VEGAS developers didn't expect.
Yes, going back to legacy AVC decoding does work, but that shouldn't be the solution.
yes, agree with you guys
I shoot it in OnePlus 7t @ 60fps.
never face these problems before.
for my clip @zzzzzz9125 can be right. that it has bug as I transcoded this clip and try again. it worked.
but my point is at least VEGAS should give notice to user about the unsupported media.
I doubt the program knows this media is unsupported, it's just a decoding bug.
I doubt the program knows this media is unsupported, it's just a decoding bug.
but if clip has a bug then how can it run good in legacy mode?
even you will notice some more things like
In legacy Mode ON
In legacy Mode OFF
I don't think, this is my clip's bug. as @zzzzzz9125 observed.
it is VEGAS bug.
what you guys said?
you can look it
or test it yourself.
I doubt the program knows this media is unsupported, it's just a decoding bug.
but if clip has a bug then how can it run good in legacy mode?
I never said the clip had a bug. VEGAS has a new media decoder from version 21.300 and newer (Mxcompound) which has bugs with certain media. Legacy mode is an older decoder (so4compound) which had years of testing and improvement (introduced with VP 15).
Helping find the bugs with the new decoder is very important so thank you for your findings. Could you also share MediaInfo so we can see at a glance what type of media is having trouble?
You are right.
The error is in VP22. I tried VP21 b208 and everything is ok there.
I doubt the program knows this media is unsupported, it's just a decoding bug.
but if clip has a bug then how can it run good in legacy mode?
I never said the clip had a bug. VEGAS has a new media decoder from version 21.300 and newer (Mxcompound) which has bugs with certain media. Legacy mode is an older decoder (so4compound) which had years of testing and improvement (introduced with VP 15).
Helping find the bugs with the new decoder is very important so thank you for your findings. Could you also share MediaInfo so we can see at a glance what type of media is having trouble?
yes, thanks for considering my findings.
General Complete name : C:\Users\iamem\Downloads\Phone Link\VID_20240907_122759.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media / Version 2 Codec ID : mp42 (isom/mp42) File size : 24.5 MiB Duration : 35 s 840 ms Overall bit rate : 5 727 kb/s Frame rate : 30.105 FPS Encoded date : 2024-09-07 06:58:36 UTC Tagged date : 2024-09-07 06:58:36 UTC xyz : +30.8662+075.8607/ com.android.version : 12 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L1 Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, Reference : 2 frames Format settings, GOP : M=2, N=29 Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 35 s 774 ms Bit rate : 5 454 kb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Rotation : 270° Frame rate mode : Variable Frame rate : 30.105 FPS Minimum frame rate : 15.033 FPS Maximum frame rate : 10 000.000 FPS Real frame rate : 30.000 FPS Standard : NTSC Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.087 Stream size : 23.3 MiB (95%) Title : VideoHandle Language : English Encoded date : 2024-09-07 06:58:36 UTC Tagged date : 2024-09-07 06:58:36 UTC Color range : Limited colour_range_Original : Full Color primaries : BT.709 colour_primaries_Original : BT.601 PAL Transfer characteristics : BT.709 transfer_characteristics_Or : BT.601 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 matrix_coefficients_Origina : BT.470 System B/G mdhd_Duration : 35774 Codec configuration box : avcC Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : mp4a-40-2 Duration : 35 s 840 ms Source duration : 35 s 840 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 192 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 840 KiB (3%) Source stream size : 840 KiB (3%) Title : SoundHandle Language : English Encoded date : 2024-09-07 06:58:36 UTC Tagged date : 2024-09-07 06:58:36 UTC mdhd_Duration : 35840
@iEmby your file plays back as in your video when dropped on the timeline in VP22.
There is a "workaround" though until this gets fixed.
Check mark in File I/O to enable Legacy decode. Drop your clip on the timeline. It should appear and play back properly.
Save your project, exit Vegas.
Reopen your project and change the Project Video Properties to 1920x1080. You should be able to add another clip like the one you supplied, and it should now appear properly. At least it does when I added for the second time, your clip to the timeline.
Have you tried Vegas Picture in Picture to rotate? In Angle, type in -90
Have you tried Vegas Picture in Picture to rotate? In Angle, type in -90
sir, I have so many tricks related to that already.. but i need to know why it was not working by default.
so for that I got answer that VEGAS has issue.. so now i am transcoding and working.
Frame rate mode : Variable Frame rate : 30.105 FPS Minimum frame rate : 15.033 FPS Maximum frame rate : 10 000.000 FPS
The default decoder is likely struggling with this highly variable frame rate stuff. I have forwarded this to the video engine/file i/o team.
@VEGASDerek Thanks 🙏.
"as i want to try Legacy Mode OFF more"
Perhaps you can still do that by converting the Variable frame rate clips to constant frame then importing into VP..
Ok, I did that. No quality loss. No use of Legacy Mode. Converted VFR to CFR, rotated 270 degrees (required an mov extension, metadata changed), no transcoding. Then imported into VP 21 b315.
TBH Simply using Legacy in I/O is best.