I just realized problems started with V14

Mindmatter wrote on 4/13/2018, 6:10 AM

Hi all,

for some random reason or simply by istake, I recently started a project in v13 instead of V14.

Interviews with a lot of new blue titler animations in between, some colorfast 2, Sony sharpness.

It all went really smooth, GPU animation on the whole time, clean renders, all good.

Then, by habit and without noticing at first, I opened the same project in V14. Instand preview stutters, the titles became fuzzy, weird and slow timeline behaviour, even a weird newblue bug where it suddenly replaced all my titles with the same one.

I only then realized I was working in V14. Given the debacle I had gotten use to when rendering composited stuff with GPU on in V14, I quickly reopened it in V13, I luckily hadn't saved it in V14 yet.

I also only then realized that some of the trouble I had experienced in recent months was actually due to V14. So my conclusion for now is to stay with V13 unless I absolutely need to use prores stuff or work in 4k.

Weird.

Comments

Cliff Etzel wrote on 4/13/2018, 12:41 PM

Even with the humble software promotion going on (for a mere $20), I'm still hesitant to upgrade to VP14 - I'm a solo shooter and convert any footage from my Olympus mirrorless cameras I work with to Cineform which is still the best way to go IMO for intermediate conversion. PPro CS6 is still my go to as VP13 has even let me down on more than one occasion on paying gigs where I lost money rebuilding those projects in PPro. I really want to believe in Vegas Pro and I may still upgrade just to leave my options open for editing in 4K although PPro CS6 has already had that from Red Camera days and converting to Cineform, albeit will create HUGE video files, seems to be the right way to go for my workflow.

Kinvermark wrote on 4/13/2018, 2:12 PM

And yet for me, Vegas 14 is a stable environment and great editing experience.

Mindmatter wrote on 4/14/2018, 3:25 AM

Cliff,

have you tried transcoding to mxf / XAVC-I instead of cineform?

V13 is totally stable here.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 4/16/2018, 2:12 PM

Cliff,

have you tried transcoding to mxf / XAVC-I instead of cineform?

V13 is totally stable here.

@Mindmatter YesI have - only issue is in the past I've done that and if I needed to go to PPro CS6, it doesn't recognize the file format since it's unsupported by CS6 - and then I have to rebuild from scratch using Cineform. I've been debating that workflow again though - what has been your experience going that route?

Mindmatter wrote on 4/23/2018, 4:13 AM

Cliff, as I don't work in PP, I basically don't have to deal with that particular issue.

I've noticed tho that general timeline and preview behaviour are smoother and almost without issues when working with XAVC-I, as opposed to DNxHD or XAVC-S.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 4/23/2018, 12:28 PM

Well it seems that I needed to disassemble my desktop computer yesterday, clean it out completely including the radiator on the CPUs water cooler which was clogged and I didn't even realize it. I'm thinking that was causing the instability issues by the computer getting too hot. I also did a fresh install from from scratch of Windows 10 and all my apps - the computer is running at least a 10C cooler. I'm guessing the last image I had restored from had so much crap from installs and such that it was also adding to the instability issues. When I tried to restore from that image, windows wouldn't accept it - which is a good thing IMO. I'm still testing Vegas now to see if it will perform any better.