Hey zip can you tell me what you're editing right now ?

I'm 20 years old and I edit for tv stations. I'm also mature enough not to tell stupid things on this forum.
How about you ?

Nat

Re your response to Zip, as we would say in Australia "Good on ya mate!"

Regards

Briang

As far as workflow and general at-a-glace there is no difference in the UI.

Perhaps a little thing or two, but nothing as drastic as say Sonar 1.0 to Sonar 2.0 or Cakewalk to Sonar, etc.

Looks like the same old Vegas with new, cool-guy features :-)

Yep, no real difference to the UI functionality. But the attempts to make it 'pretty' have actually made it as ugly as sin. I find it harder on the eyes, plus I think it looks deeply unprofessional. Hate to say it, but I'm going to be embarrassed to show Vegas 5 to clients.

The new icons are professional in quality. Subtle yet easy to identify. It's not a good sign if your clients are paying more attention to the icons in your editor than your production.

Plus you can adjust the saturation in preferences to make them even subtler.

You can please some of the people all the time...........you know the rest :)

I wanted to say that I also like the interface colors just fine myself ... which I believe I said in one of the other "negative" threads.

But check this out...
http://www1.leitch.com/velocityhd

I know the thumbnails are small so check out the "brochure" link in the left column as well. The VelocityHD has an uncanny appearance to the design of the Vegas interface. I guess immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

But, I think it would be nice to have an inverted color scheme swtich on that display tab to give us something along these lines.

JBJones

I think this bears repeating:

"I find it harder on the eyes, plus I think it looks deeply unprofessional. "

I'm in agreement totally. It would've been one thing if Sony released Vegas with the current icon set and said "more to follow," but instead I'm afraid we're stuck with these icons and a limited amount of control over their color/saturation.

I suggested it before and I'll say it again -- why not a Vegas Classic theme that looks like 4.0? If I can't completely re-skin the app my way, at least leave it unchanged for those of us who'd prefer...

Incidentally, you wouldn't have to look too far to find what looks like a better UI design than the V5 look -- these forums offer some good ideas!

- jim

cheesehole - "It's not a good sign if your clients are paying more attention to the icons in your editor than your production".

I don't want to be funny cheesehole, but I expected someone to reply with something like that and it's such an old cliche!

I work on the audio side of things, dealing with some fairly major clients, and I think most people understand that, like it or not, a lot of this business is about perception. Sure, it's the end product that counts in the end, but how you come across is very important, and how your studio looks - inc. software - counts. I'm sure the same is true with the video side of things.

I want to be proud of using Vegas - I love it - and don't want people to think I'm working with software made by Tomy. Is that too much to ask?

Ben

Put the icons in grayscale, nobody will complain...

I have yet to upgrade but having seen the screen shots and read the many comments I gotta say I'm a bit pensive and disappointed. The thought of showing the new " Vegas ", despite its features, to a potential client, client, or peer makes me shudder. I've shown off Vegas to many a person in the field that use Avid, Final Cut, etc who already had preconceived notions about Vegas being less than professional for editing. I can't imagine doing that now with its " new " look, its an embarrassment.

- Ray

www.undergroundplanet.com

Totally agree Muttley.

Come on Sony, you've got to sort this out. Either rethink it completely, or make it totally customizable, inc. individual icon colours. The faders particulary make me wince.

Problem is, you lower saturation etc to make it look less naff, but you then loose the definition of the icons and it's hard to work out what's what.

Ben

This is what they are whining about people:
http://ben.orona.com/video/vegas5/v5screenshot.gif

Yeah, Tomy.

EDIT: Problem is, you lower saturation etc to make it look less naff, but you then loose the definition of the icons and it's hard to work out what's what.

Okay now that is a valid complaint. There should be a "contrast" slider or something. Also the "ripple edit" indicator is just about invisible, and the color controls don't have an effect on it.

What is the problem!
Version 5 icons are graphicly cleaner which equals more professional.
It also is not very pro to complain about minor things.
If you're talking about the Suits, they love rubbing elbows with the artists, you don't have to dumb it down artistly to their level.

I was hoping for a way to dock the timeline in the lower half of the screen, with the preview, effects and other tabs at the top. Is this in V5?

The title of this thread reminds of the scene on The Sopranos where Michael Imperioli** and his crew are outside of a club or a movie premiere. There behind the velvet ropes amongst the crowd who are not getting in. Martin Scorsese gets out of a limo and you expect Imperioli to shout something about Goodfellas or Mean Streets or even Casino. Instead he raises his fist and shouts

"Kundun. I liked it."

**If you remember Imperioli was in Goodfellas. He played Spider the kid Joe Pesci shoots in the foot.

>>>I was hoping for a way to dock the timeline in the lower half of the screen, with the preview, effects and other tabs at the top. Is this in V5?<<<

Aside from the "Docking" part - I have Vegas 4 set up this way.

I the ability to really choose the screen layout i.e. with docking at the top/sides (like DVDA V2) would be good.

If you have them undocked at the top the menus kinda belong in the wrong place

Or did I miss something - please tell me you haven't been able to move the timeline to the bottom all along!

Paul

Like this?

>>> please tell me you haven't been able to move the timeline to the bottom all along!<<<

I guess it depends on how bottom bottom is. But yeah, you could have done that. I think the 'docking' in the new version just works out better because you can 'save' the layout. With Vegas 4 the problem is that if you sneeze and somehting moves that is where it is stuck. I spent a long time re orginizing the windows to where I liked them for my workflow - as long as I don't shut anything down or move anything, or god forbid reset anything to 'deafult', all is well.

Just to add - Premiere has had the workspace idea for along time now. I am glad Vegas finally adopted it, but it would also be nice to have it available as something other than a keyboard shortcut only. In Premiere 6/6.5 I had one workspace for audio, one for output/ptt and one for editing.

I thought that what filmy meant, not quite what I was looking for :-)

Hi filmy,

we posted at the same time.

I use/have Prem Pro so know what u mean, I have posted on the scripts forum to see if ti is possible to have a script change to different workspaces, then I can modify it for w1, w2, w3 etc and even create icons and add them to the toolbar and the menu structure and have them as hotkeys.

The toolbar would be my personal preference

Paul