I may have "figured out" how to use DVD Architect with DVD9 and DLT

Sticky Fingaz wrote on 5/27/2004, 10:46 AM
Okay, I needed a way to write to DLT because a project I am doing is going to be mass produced, and on a dual layered DVD. Being very familiar with DVD Architect, I got upset that it did not have the ability to write to DLT/DVD9.

However, on my search, I found this program:

http://www.gearsoftware.com/products/mastering/index.cfm

It is called GEAR PRO Mastering Edition. What it seems like from reading it is basically a program that takes a VIDEO_TS folder, and can turn it into a DLT DVD9 formatted product. Now with DVD Architect as we all know, we can save to disk rather than burn, and we can do however big of a file size we want (not forced to do 4.3 gigs).

Now before I convince whom I am working for to spend $750 on this program, does anyone here after reading that page think it will work? Seems like it right?

Thanks!

Comments

SonyEPM wrote on 5/27/2004, 11:00 AM
Are you expecting to magically get dual layer support by using this tool? If so DON'T buy it, this will not work.
[r]Evolution wrote on 5/27/2004, 11:07 AM
THERE IS NO DUAL LAYER DISC SUPPORT IN DVDA!

ABSOLUTELY NONE!
Sticky Fingaz wrote on 5/27/2004, 11:20 AM
Okay, obviously neither of you two understand what I am saying. (I hope that doesn't sound rude, I am being serious).

The program advertises as a mastering program, that will take a completed VIDEO_TS folder and do things like *gasp* layer break and *gasp* write to DLT in the DVD-9 format.

Why it matters, or the fact that both of you are yelling that DVDA cannot do dual layering is beyond me. DVDA allows me to write to disk PAST the DVD5 capacity, and make my 8 gig project on disk. Why I can't use this Gear Pro Mastering program is beyond me, since it is GEAR PRO that is doing the layer break and DLT writing. I mean, if I still needed my program to support Dual Layer/DVD9 to do it, what purpose would Gear Pro have AT ALL?

Don't get me wrong, I can be wrong about all this which is why I made the thread in the first place. But I am getting replies like "Hey man, DVDA doesn't do dual layering". Yeah, no kidding. But it seems that this Gear Pro program will LET me do that, with ANY VIDEO_TS files, eg: ones that DVDA would make for me.
JSWTS wrote on 5/27/2004, 11:50 AM
Even at $750, I don't think it would 'solve' the type of dual layer disc you want to create. The application does allow for OTP or PTP layer breaks for DVD-ROM, but those are essentially data type discs. If you read the pdf file at the bottom, and one of the testimonials, it only mentions single layer DVD video.

Jim
Sticky Fingaz wrote on 5/27/2004, 12:34 PM
Their specs page (the one I linked) specifically states DVD video?
JSWTS wrote on 5/27/2004, 1:42 PM
Well, after looking a bit more on the web site, I found this:
http://www.gearsoftware.com/LayerBreakPoint.cfm
You are correct in that you can set the layer break for dvd video as well--but it is not straight forward, and requires knowledge of another program (IfoEdit) to accomplish it. DVD-ROM's (because they have to abide by fewer rules) are easier to create. In both cases the layer break is created principally by the numbers, and not in regards to the content (although it is easier with a DVD-ROM to set the break so as to not split a file).

It creates (somewhat laborious) dual layer breaks at a price point that is more than Vegas and DVD-A. It doesn't say whether or not it will create a break point and do so for recordable media, but I bet it will. The manner in which they create the break point is strictly by the numbers, and not with any regard to the video content and how it might affect playback (a pause at the wrong spot). Authoring apps that give you direct control over this can help in creating more seamless playback, because you are creating the layer break not only by the numbers, but with respect to the actual content.

Jim

richard-courtney wrote on 5/27/2004, 3:17 PM
So how would you use it?

Build 2 projects? (one for each layer)

What do you create in a menu if you want chapters in the second project?

Does this program look at the IFO files and create a seamless link to the
additional VOBs?

I think I would wait or at least talk to your replicator on how much
THEY would charge to build your project. Much safer.
Sticky Fingaz wrote on 5/27/2004, 3:35 PM
When I spoke to Gear on the phone, they simply said take my 8 gig Video_TS folder that DVDArchitect made, and Gear will do the rest (eg: layer breaks, DLT writing, etc).