I need help on a video card for Vegas Video!!

JSpielberg wrote on 2/4/2002, 9:58 AM
Ok guys, I need your help. I currently am running Vegas Video 3.0 and have done some video capture with an ATI TV/Video capture card. Worked decent but wanted something with some Inputs and outputs on it. Anyway, I took back the card and bought a NVIDIA Cinema card that had a nice little brekout box that you atached to the card. For some reason I couldn't capture video with. Vegas would not recognize it. I took that back and now have an ATI All in wonder 128 AGP card and can capture Audio and video fine. Will I be able to export out to video camera or VCR after editing with this? Is anyone using a similar setup? What is the best way to do this? Use the Record to Tape feature in Vegas? Also, has anyone tried the ATI Raedon 8500? It looks pretty cool but the price tag is a little steep for me but may get it if its worth it. Please help!! Will read all responses and thanks in advance...

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rwsjr wrote on 2/4/2002, 11:00 AM
I also have an ATI AIW card. To capture video with that card, use the Multimedia Center Software that comes with the card, specifically the Digital VCR. You can edit the video captured this way in Vegas just fine. Vegas only allows you to capture DV through Firewire.

I've been able to get decent looking captures with the ATI, but the file sizes are very large and the sound gets out of sync on longer clips.

To use the Vegas capture, you'll need a Digital Camcorder with a Firewire output or a Firewire card and a Analog to DV converter. Low end Analog to DV converter boxes cost around $300. The Canopus ADVC-100 and Hollywood Dazzle DV bridge are options I am investigating. Sony used to offer an Analog to DV converter but it was recently discontinued.

Hope this helps.
SonyEPM wrote on 2/4/2002, 12:07 PM
If you want something that works GREAT, get this:

Canopus ADVC-100 (media converter)

and if you don't have a 1394 card get a Pyro or SIIG.
JSpielberg wrote on 2/4/2002, 12:12 PM
So to go back out to a VCR or Camcorder, I need a Digital to analog converter? I too have seen the Hollywood Dazzle. Are there any other options as far as the all in one card is concerned. Now I jhave been able to capture video from my sony camcorder to Vegas. But, your saying that you need a DV Camcorder with the firewire output to record to tape in Vegas?

Anyone tried the ATI 8500 AIW? Does it have the Digital to Analog converters?

Thanks again...
Chienworks wrote on 2/4/2002, 6:38 PM
I have moderately explicit intructions for printing to an analog VCR through the ATI card at this post:

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=89989&Page=0

You'll want to render your project to an MPEG file with a rather high bitrate to get the best quality possible. Use the DVD best template or choose at least 8,300,000
JSpielberg wrote on 2/5/2002, 12:27 PM
OK, thanks for the reply. But, what are the other options out there as far as video cards? Whats everyone using?
SonyEPM wrote on 2/5/2002, 12:40 PM
I'll repeat/paraphrase my earlier post on this thread:

If you want a setup that WORKS, with no headaches, get the Canopus ADVC-100 (media converter). If you don't have a 1394 card get a Pyro or SIIG.
Summersond wrote on 2/5/2002, 12:44 PM
I just purchased an analog to mpeg device from ADS. It is called USB Instant DVD. It will enable you to hook up any av device on it's inputs and the signal will be converted to Mpeg 1 or 2 and senst via USB to the pc. I recommend using their software to import the file, then open Vegas Video to modify the file after that. when you are done, you could use the included software to dump back the remaining file to a videotape or you could burn a cd or dvd. Hope this helps.

dave
Cheesehole wrote on 2/5/2002, 2:46 PM
that doesn't sound like a good solution to me. mpeg is not an ideal format to edit. USB is not a good I/O device for video.

i'm with SonicEPM on this one. i recommend the DV converter solution with a Firewire card. it's much less of a headache, is much more capable, and it's a standard set up that all of us can help support.

going cheezy is not going to save you anything in the long run.

- ben