I was very impressed with that opening shot as well. I also looked for Icarus and found that it had gone commercial. I am not sure if the license for the older software would allow for any one to re-distribute it but I would love to play with that motion control software as well.

Please post if you find a site still legally distributing it.

Joe

Many thanks for the link John!!

Joe

Please post if you find a site still legally distributing it.

The original two threads listed in my original response above list several sites that might still have it.

If you want to purchase the commercial version of this software, here's the link:

PFTrack (Commercial Icarus)

I've looked through the other threads and tried all the links but none of them seem to have the file. Either the servers are down, too busy or who knows.

I'll try them again later, but if anyone wants to make a fresh working link and post it here that would be awesome.

JBJones

My ftp still has the live link below.its open 24/7 if peeps are still after this app.

user Markey

pass video

port 21123

ip 1 mashadmin.hn.org

ip 2 mashadmin.no-ip.info

flack

Such a great message Flack..

I just don't get the port thingie.. keeps timing out. Anyone have instructions?

thx

most ftp programs have a way for you to set the "port thingie". By default it is set to port 21 but in this case "Flack" has set his server to be on a special non-standard port. If you are using FTP within Internet Explorer you use the syntax of ftp://mashadmin.no-ip.info:21123/

Although I tried to login with the usernam / password specified and I get an error saying the password is incorrect.

-Liam

I tried connecting but no luck. First I had to go to the original message to see that your userid must be Markey rather than markey.

This got me closer but now it says
530 Your IP is banned : 205.178.43.228

As far as I know my ISP is clean. Did you block a range that I am in for some reason?

My IP is banned also. Any reason that might be?

I used Markey/video

I'm using SmartFTP. And I'm behind a hardware based firewall on DSL (which hasn't affected me before)

JBJones

jbjones said:

> I want to experiment with that kind of
> stuff, but there is no way I can justify
> a $1000 piece of software just for fun.

Fair enough (and I think the full version of Icarus is a bit more than that!). I have ICARUS v2.09 myself (personal free version - just before it went commercial), but the license condition clearly states that I cannot legally distribute it. I'm pretty sure no one else can either.

In any event, there is a much chaper alternative that is currently in beta and seems to be shaping up well - SynthEyes. It doesn't have the scene reconstruction capabilities of Icarus as far as I can see (only played with it a bit), but so far it has managed to get useful tracking from shots that Icarus couldn't handle (though this might say more about my Icarus skills than anything else). Go here to find out more and sign up for the public beta:

http://www.ssontech.com/index.html

The projected commercial cost is said to be arounf US$350. Pretty affordable compared to the software it competes with, as well as most of the software it's designed to work with.



Skevos Mavros
mavart@mavart.com
http://www.mavart.com

Hate to ask the stupid question but what does Icarus do? Does Boris Red have similar capabilites?

-Jason S.

Hey Guys you have to use passive mode and not port mode.. and the user name is Markey and not markey. its best to use a ftp client programe as well, although you should be able to grab it with IE..


update...

My server will be off for a few hours for maintenance keep checking back.

Flack

JBJones

If you try to connect to many times in quick succession it will ban you, I have done it now so once its back up try again.... Any problems just send me a message...

Flack .....

jsteehl said:

> Hate to ask the stupid question but what does Icarus do?

Icarus (and similar programs) takes footage (eg, a DV AVI file) and examines it using clever maths so as to calculate the camera's motion at the time the footage was shot. You can then use that extracted motion to control the "camera" in your 3D program so that when you combine your video footage with your 3D render, your 3D objects track to the footage. Some of this sort of software can also do tricky things like smooth out the handheld jitters of the footage, or remove moving objects from the footage leaving only the background, that sort of thing.

It's not DIRECTLY relevant to Vegas, but a lot of Vegas users also seem to use 3D software too (even if it's only for titles).

> Does Boris Red have similar capabilites?

Not to my knowledge, no.




Skevos Mavros
mavart@mavart.com
http://www.mavart.com

Ok guys my server is up if anybody wants this app.


Flack....

11/10/2003 3:42:29 PM Ok guys my server is up if anybody wants this app.

I still have no luck. I did finally get the logon dialog, but after entering the user name and password (Markey and video), my browser just hung. I entered:
ftp://mashadmin.no-ip.info:21123/ in the address section of IE.

johnmeyer


Have you got a firewall in place if so try disabling it, then try again. also try the other ip the mashadmin.hn.org one. If this don't work let me know.

your input should look like this

ftp://Markey:video@mashadmin.hn.org:21123


Flack..

Flack,

Thanks! I was able to connect and see the files, but I'm still waiting to see the progress bar start to report on download percent. I'll give it a few hours and see what happens.

johnmeyer


Did you right click on the files and select save as?


Flack...

Did you right click on the files and select save as?

Yes (actually in XP is is "Copy To").

I just tried it again, a few hours later. It appears to be copying. Progress bar currently says one hour remaining (I'm downloading the 40 Mbyte file). I'm a little wary of having my "shields" down (I used the DMZ on my router to remove the firewall to this one computer). I'm not sure why that is necessary, but it didn't seem to work until I did that. I'll run a virus scan when I'm finished. It's amazing how many "pings" one gets, presumably from hackers looking for a machine like mine to exploit.