IE-7 (Beta) and Vegas

TomG wrote on 7/8/2006, 4:03 PM
Well, I've done it again. I haven't used Vegas since the beginning of June and now all of sudden I try to launch Vegas 6.0d (and SoundForge 8.0c for that matter) and a see a quick blue screen of death and my system reboots. But DVDA 2 still works OK.

The only thing I have changed in the last month is downloading IE 7 (Beta Build 3) to try it out. I'm not real impressed with the new IE but that is beside the point. Is anyone else using IE 7 out there and have they had any problems with Vegas or SoundForge?

If not, does anyone have any suggestions on why Vegas is dying on me? I have restored my system back to 3 weeks ago and reinstalled Vegas and SoundForge.

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fldave wrote on 7/8/2006, 5:39 PM
I think I am in a similar boat, though not with IE 7.

A couple of weeks ago, I upgraded my old Vegas workstation to Windows Media Player 10. I use to be able to have VEGs on my new workstation point to mediia on one of the many drives on that machine, plus was able to use those drives as an output for .wmv and mpg renders.

Since WMP 10, the only change on any of my machines, I am now getting a Vegas "Exception Error, Vegas must close" errors on my newest Vegas editing machine. Today was with a veg that had one small .wav file on the older, WMP 10 machine. I have never gotten Exception errors in the several years I've been using Vegas, on 2 machines. Now I am.

I moved the .wav file to my local WMP 9 machine, error went away.

You can't remove WMP upgrades after you install them, not sure about IE. Curious, did IE 7 require an upgrade to WMP 10?

My old machine needs a fresh XP install anyway. Just be warned!
TomG wrote on 7/8/2006, 6:22 PM
No, I had WMP 10 on my machine before I installed IE 7 and I had used Vegas then with no problems. I am not getting an "Exception Error, Vegas must close" error message. Both Vegas and SoundForge crash the system before they even start. Whatever Vegas and SoundForge have in common and that DVDA 3 doesn't is what is crashing my system.

I've built this system myself last March and it has been working great. Any suggestions on where I can look. I have already removed IE 7 and went back to IE 6 and the results are the same.

Help, I'm drowning!!!!

TomG
Jay-Hancock wrote on 7/8/2006, 6:47 PM
I don't know if this is the problem (just making a stab....). I do software development and we found that if Microsoft .NET Framework versions 1.1 and 2.0 are both installed on a system, apps that require 1.1 can have conflicts and get unpredictable results. If IE 7 installed the .NET framework 2.0 (and removing IE 7 didn't uninstall .NET 2.0), then this MIGHT be your problem.

Just a theory...
jetdv wrote on 7/8/2006, 8:21 PM
I have both .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 installed and Vegas 6 still runs. 1.1 and 2.0 are two separate products.
jrazz wrote on 7/8/2006, 9:37 PM
I have IE7 Beta, Net 1 & 2 and Vegas 6 and all run fine on the same machine.

j razz
TomG wrote on 7/9/2006, 10:47 AM
Well, I think it was my audio driver. I have an ASUS A8N-SLI motherboard and once I reloaded the Realtec drivers I could launch Vegas and SoundForge. Really strange, though, since the only modification I have made to the system is IE 7 (Beta). I don't think that would mess around with my audio drivers but who knows????

Thanks for the above advice.

TomG
Terry Esslinger wrote on 7/9/2006, 10:59 AM
I had installed IE7 and developed all kinds of problems including a real slooooow down. Uninstalled IE7 (back to 6) and all was fine.
Guy Bruner wrote on 7/10/2006, 9:20 AM
Well, not to be late to the party, but I have IE7 (Beta2), WMP10, .Net 1.1 and 2.0, and Vegas 6d installed on my Athlon desktop (NF3) and my Acer core duo laptop with no problems.

Something to consider if you have Windows Updates set on automatic, I had one update completely wipe out Windows a few months ago. Had to wipe the drive and reinstall. The OS had been on that machine since 2003 with no problems until that particular Update came along. So, it is possible one of the updates messed with your audio drivers. Plus, Microsoft is now putting 'Genuine Advantage' spyware on everybodys' machines. No telling what mischief that is doing.
Jay-Hancock wrote on 7/10/2006, 9:30 AM
Another reason not to put Microsoft updates on "automatic install" is because it can reboot your machine automatically, potentially killing a render that you've been running for hours and hours...
TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/10/2006, 10:23 AM
ust a quick question... if you're not having any problems with IE6 (or whatever other browser you're using) is there a reason to try IE7? I barely used 6, I use firefox for everything unless something requires IE.
JackW wrote on 7/10/2006, 10:26 AM
Isn't the broader question here "Why update Windows at all?"

I've been running Vegas 4 and 5 on the same machine for several years, using XP whatever version was current when I purchased the machine. No problems, total stability, no evident need to "update" anything.

True, we run our editing computers on an in-house network, without network connections to the Web or email, but I haven't found any necessity from an operational standpoint to tinker with Windows XP. Certainly none of our computers which have been updated by Microsoft are running any faster or better, although perhaps those with outside network connections are more secure and safe from virus infections -- at least that's what MS would have us believe.

Jack
jrazz wrote on 7/10/2006, 10:56 AM
If you want to boot up to Sata drives or use USB thumb drives (or USB anything) as bootable devices- good luck doing so in XP. For these type of things to be consistently stable, you, more than likely, will have to upgrade to sp2. Those would be reasons to upgrade the OS.

j razz
TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/10/2006, 11:12 AM
I have Win2K & have only used the service packs. Never used windows update... except once.. it killed my system so I never used it again. :( I still only have WMP9 installed & didn't even want that but it's needed for some codec's. Why did people here try IE7?
jrazz wrote on 7/10/2006, 11:39 AM
I am trying out both IE7 and Vista to familiarize myself with it due to the fact that I work on computers and teach others how to use them. I would like to have the upper hand and be knowledgeable concerning Vista, IE7, etc before people can buy them so that I can help when they need it and not be learning it the same time they are.

If it was not for that, I would only use Firefox and stick with XP sp2.

j razz
TomG wrote on 7/10/2006, 12:59 PM
I agree with you all that if IE 6 ain't broke, why try IE 7. Perhaps it was just curiousity that killed the cat (whose name is TomG). I really don't think it was IE 7 at all now. It was one of those "updates" that messed with my nVidia sound card. When I went to Windows update and found an "optional" hardward driver, I went ahead and loaded it and THAT caused the nasty little surprise that killed Vegas and SoundForge. I reinstalled my previous driver and everything seems to be OK now.

As others before me have so aptly stated, if you want to be the first to try new software, you had better not put it on your primary machine..... Amen

TomG