If You Had A Multi-Million$ Budget Would You Use Vegas??

Ken Kendall wrote on 3/23/2004, 10:01 PM
First off, I enjoy using Vegas but my question to all Vegas users is; If you were given an unlimted budget would Vegas still be your editing choice? or would you switch to AVID, FCP, etc. The reason I ask is because the April 2004 Videomaker mag showed this years short video contest winners all using Premiere, AVID and FCP. Can Vegas handle the "big important film projects or should we all use AVID or FCP when it comes to the "important stuff" I welcome your comments on this matter. Thanks.

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PeterWright wrote on 3/23/2004, 10:51 PM
If you're talking video, Vegas can handle any job.

You also mention film - EDL export may currently be better on some other NLE's.

I would guess that the reason that the contest winners used those "other" products is simply that Vegas is still relatively unknown - this is changing slowly and is I suspect about to change more rapidly ...

Those other programs may have a comparable feature list to Vegas, but that's only part of the story. Generally Vegas does most things much easier.
rmack350 wrote on 3/23/2004, 11:10 PM
I'd hire someone else to edit and let them use whatever they want. And maybe that's really the telling point. Hire the skills, don't worry about the platform. I'd rather hire someone with better skills to sit in a dark room while I get to be on set and locaton.

The fact that this contest was full of Avid, FCP, and Premiere users may also be because the user base is mature enough to turn out a lot of material. Or maybe they all are so underemployed that they have the time to enter contest (Videomaker, no less. Kind of the bottom of the barrel IMO). Who knows?

My impression is that the Vegas community right now is falling on either side of the group likely to enter this contest. Either still learning or too busy.

Rob Mack
busterkeaton wrote on 3/24/2004, 12:06 AM
If I had a million dollars, I would definitely use Vegas. I think the money could be better spent elsewhere. For instance, I would edit in velvet smoking jackets and matching slippers. My desk chair would turn into a hovercraft, so I could just hover over to the wet bar which would have champagne on tap. I would have a silent manservant who had a duelllng scar. My sexy, but deadly female bodyguard would be trained by the Culinary Institue of America and the Central Intelligence Agency. I would get one of those pimp cups like Snopp Dogg has and lasers, definitely lasers.
mark2929 wrote on 3/24/2004, 12:17 AM
You would have to use an editing system that can edit Film. Also I would want a Mojo Something that you could watch realtime on a full size screen when that film is projected in theatres you would need to make sure every little detail is right. I personally would want to do a rough cut on Vegas. Refine it in Avid then get a trainee ed to cut real film roughly slightly larger than my cuts then redo them then get the labs to color correct the old fashioned way Putting the final cut onto a hard drive then getting all me copys from that A lot of work. But for me, I bet a lot of fun.
Yoyodyne wrote on 3/24/2004, 12:35 AM
busterkeaton - best reply ever!

But of course it would have to be (in Dr. Evil voice) oooooonnnneee mmmmillionnnn dolllarssss.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/24/2004, 5:15 AM
Of course I'd still use Vegas. I'd just also have a mixing board, nice projector (digital), couple more monitors, nice sound system, etc etc etc. :) The Eyptions built the pyrmids without construction equipment so why couldn't I make a world renound movie with Vegas? :) Well, I need a good story first, but THEN I could do it. :)
JJKizak wrote on 3/24/2004, 5:39 AM
With a million dollar budget I couldn't even afford to get into HD. Why not $10,000,000.00

JJK
ClipMan wrote on 3/24/2004, 5:51 AM
...I would buy a lot of beer...
AlanC wrote on 3/24/2004, 6:29 AM
If You Had A Multi-Million$ Budget Would You Use Vegas??

Either Vegas or Monaco. There both good for blowing a million bucks!
FuTz wrote on 3/24/2004, 8:44 AM

Sure I'd still use Vegas..!
For heavy, long professionnal projects, I'd HIRE an editor with his own gear, haha!
I like editing, but hell would I go travel while the job is being done instead of sitting in a chair for hours doing it myself...
bakerbud9 wrote on 3/24/2004, 7:03 PM
who shoots on film anymore?
i wouldn't even shoot on film.
-nate
rmack350 wrote on 3/24/2004, 7:22 PM
Just a million? I thought it was multimillions.

For just a million I might very well use Vegas. For multimillions I'd be shooting film.

In either case I'd hire a better editor and I'd hope to learn a lot. There's always someone better out there. If you can hire them you should.

Rob Mack
rmack350 wrote on 3/24/2004, 8:03 PM
Lots of people shoot on film. If I had more than a million and I had to make a movie, I'd use film. Better crews, better work ethic, lots more fun. And the product can look better.

Of course, I think I'd rather just pay off my house...

Rob Mack
pb wrote on 3/24/2004, 8:32 PM
Heck no. I'd shoot the job then pay someone else to cut it on an AVID.
Paul_Holmes wrote on 3/24/2004, 8:39 PM
pb had the cleverest answer!

However, if I had a million dollar budget I'd still use Vegas but I would now have 16 4 + Gigahertz computers all networked together with 16 paid copies of Vegas running on each one!
filmy wrote on 3/24/2004, 9:02 PM
This is a trick question right? Where is the hidden camera?

Well first if I had an unlimited budget I would buy a better set up than I have now. That does not mean I would get rid of Vegas - it means I would get a top of the line system, mixing board...hell I would build a mini-theatre/mixing room. Vegas and Sound Forge would be for sure a part of it.

Now the trick question part - am I doing this for myself or because some client has come to me with a blank check? That is the trick because if a client came to me and wanted certian things such as an offline edit with an EDL and/or EDL for matchback I could not use Vegas. I would be forced to go to another NLE set up. If the client came to me and wanted me to cut a full fledged HD project or something and output to HD (not HDV) currently Vegas has issues with doing that because of lack of hardware support...again I would have to go to another system. Keep in mind I am speaking from an editor POV. So really if they hire me with a blank check they can certianly supply me with a workspace as well - rental or otherwise. The NLE would have to fit the work requirements.
Lanzaedit wrote on 3/24/2004, 9:22 PM
If I had that kind of budget, I would pay to update the Vegas software so it would do all the things we need it to do as editors.
For me, EDL support.

John


GlennChan wrote on 3/25/2004, 2:16 AM
Some people already mix audio for Hollywood feature films (i.e. DSE/Spot).

2- Quantel anybody? Those goes for $1 million each. :D
BrianStanding wrote on 3/25/2004, 8:20 AM
Me? I would take the money, invest it wisely, live off the interest, quit my day job, and make 1 fascinating, well-researched, lively, entertaining and well-edited documentary about people in far off lands each year for the rest of my life.

And sure, I'd use Vegas. Until something better comes along.
rmack350 wrote on 3/25/2004, 8:52 AM
Yes, that was occurring to me as well (while reading Filmy's response)

If I had a MULTI million dollar budget then maybe I COULD afford to hire a programmer or two or three to build the plug-ins needed. It would maybe be similar to the development of Film-GIMP out of GIMP.

It might be simpler to do the matchback tools than to try to make Vegas do 10 bit color for HD. The key to it all is that it has to be worth someone's while to spend the money.

I wonder what it would cost to do this AND port to Linux? Basically you'd want a Vegas port sold on a sysytem like Knoppix. Everything on one CD and configured to make a complete system.

Would there be anything left for the film?

Rob Mack

riredale wrote on 3/25/2004, 12:13 PM
I don't know if you guys noticed, but today in the paper there was a brief item about how the AVERAGE Hollywood movie has now hit the $100,000,000 mark in overall cost (production and distribution).

So spending $1k or $100k on editing stuff is down in the noise.