Note the "DV" in that statement.

This setting only applies to DV codecs. Maybe that will help you realize it's way less ominous than you're trying to make it sound. Add on top of that that the SONY DV codec included in Vegas is just about the very best one available, and you'll realize that ignoring other DV codecs is actually the best possible option.

It's set that way to help you. Honest.

Um...that means Microsoft VFW codecs, right? And FFDShow accesses via VFW, right? And FFDShow encodes and decodes just about every format, right?

So, how is it helping me?

Um...that means Microsoft VFW codecs, right? And FFDShow accesses via VFW, right? And FFDShow encodes and decodes just about every format, right?

You are a very confused being, sir.
Go to bed.

Has it ever occured to anyone that supporting a wide range of codecs is not in the best interest of the NLE maker?

Has it occured to anyone that FCP is only for Mac because Mac users have no options, and it's a captive market? And that FCP would have to go up against a bevy of Windows NLE's? So why would they want to support Microsoft or other codecs?

"Has it ever occured to anyone that supporting a wide range of codecs is not in the best interest of the NLE maker?"

No. It makes absolutely no sense to me why they'd not want to support as many codecs as possible. Having to pay licence fees to the owners of the IP might be one reason. Another is them simply refusing to sell a licence e.g. Panasonic would not licence DVCProHD to Sony.

"Has it occured to anyone that FCP is only for Mac because Mac users have no options, and it's a captive market? "

Huh, many NLEs run under OSX. Avid, Ppro and Media100. Probably more I've never heard of too..

"So why would they want to support Microsoft or other codecs?"

Microsoft is a COMPANY not a codec. Microsoft sell lots of products that run under Apple's OSX and Apple sells lots of their PCs because of it. At one time Microsoft bought 25% of Apple's stock to save them from going bankrupt.
If you meant Microsoft's codecs then you're making even less sense, Microsoft's DV codec opens just fine in FCP and Apples ProRes works on PCs.

Bob.

You've missed it again.

Do you realize that "DV" refers to one extremely tiny slice of formats? Specifically, it refers to just one single encoding method of one video format. It has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft or VFW or FFDShow in the slightest. Just DV, just that one format.

As it happens, Microsoft delivers one of the absolute crappiest DV codecs available. It helps you immensely when Vegas defaults to ignoring it because the DV codec built into Vegas is about 135 trillion times better quality.

Selecting this option does not in any way hinder you from using any other codecs for any other format besides DV. Please repeat that sentence to yourself about 12,000 times before you post any nonsense again. Thank you.

Kelly is absolutely right about the Microsoft DV Codec. But you can still use some external DV Codecs without unchecking the "Ignore 3rd Party DV Codecs". Personally I use the MainConcept DV Codec when I use the NewDeshaker script to transfer video between Vegas and VirtualDub.

Jøran Toresen

So it IS there to block Microsoft's DV codec, just like I said.

Yes, it is there to keep from using the MS DV Codec, because early on, that codec had some major quality issues. It would shift colors, suffered from generation loss, etc. This kept the unknowing user from accidentally using the inferior codec. It is not "blocked", it is ignored. You can easily un-ignore it and try to use it if you like.

From what I have seen, Vegas is very agnostic when it comes to codecs. The bigger issue seems to be that programmers like QuickTime keep changing the codec to make it incompatible with other software (even their own in some cases) and it costs money and time for companies like SCS to keep up with it. At some point they have to make a decision of cost vs. return on supporting other codecs.

Dave T2

Chienworks,

So what you're saying is that Sony doesn't want anyone to use the M$ DV codec because uninformed users will blame the poor performance on Vegas, right?

Hmmm...isn't this what's happening on another thread?

Dave,

Exactly! The codecs are splintering because everyone want's to proprietize their content. This is the trend and we have to deal with it.

And the way to deal with it is to embrace the open source movement just like we are embracing organic farming, so we can get back control of what we eat and what we can do on our computer (that we paid good money for).

Learning to transcode to open source codecs is the only way to fight back.

This is a true altruistic grassroots effort that We The People can truly benefit from, and if everyone learned it, software like Vegas can move on to making really great new features and not get mired down in codec support.

Not in the slightest. The option is there to block it because *MOST* DV codecs besides a tiny handful from SONY (originally Sonic Foundry), Main Concept, and a couple others are total trash. At the time Vegas first handled DV Sonic Foundry took a look at the available DV codecs and not one of them was up to snuff. They wrote their own from scratch and it was way better than Pretty Darned Good!. Rightfully so made it the standard used in Vegas. They didn't block all other DV codecs (not just Microsoft, get that out of your head) because they wanted to avoid people blaming Vegas. They blocked them because they wanted users to get the best results possible.

Nothing sinister at all.

Bud, ok then. Let us know when you or someone else develops a 3rd party open source DV codec that's even 1/4 as good as SONY's. I shan't be holding my breath in wait though.

For that matter, by the time someone does bother even thinking about it, DV will be a long lost forgotten footnote in the annals of video history.

And, as you pointed out yourself in your very first post, you can turn off this limitation any time you want.

So, what was it you were complaining about again? You seem to have lost your own thread completely.

Kelly,
Take a breath, man. Before last night bud didn't even know what DV is (read this thread). Nothing worth having an aneurism over.
Happy New Year!