im stumped and need help..trying to capture analog with VV capture..

lilpizan77 wrote on 3/23/2001, 1:54 AM
ok , heres the situation... i just installed the studio
DC10+ from pinnacle on my system with a pentium III 450
system with 32 megs of ram (yes , i know thats not alot of
ram , but im installing another 128 tommorrow as well as a
second 7200 rpm hard drive)... ideally , i want to use
vegas video capture for capturing and then edit using vegas
video..

from what ive read on these forums whats best to do is only
install the drivers for the analog capture card and then
use vegas video capture for capturing...duh.. so i did
that.. i installed only the dc10+ drivers and threw away
the software disk (not literally)..

all is well when previewing the analog video in vegas video
capture.. i can choose the dc10 as the video device without
a problem.. but heres the problem :

when i start recording the computer acts like its doing
something , but then when i hit the stop recording button i
get an error from VV capture that says something
like "unable to open codec".. anyone know what thats
about?? and unfortunately , thats not the only error i
get...sometimes i get something like a "make sure you have
read write access" error..

ive tried uninstalling , reinstalling , and fully
installing the dc10 software for the sake of finding the
elusive codec... im using vegas video capture 2.0b as well
as vegas video 2.0d.. ive installed directx 8 as well as
the dv update...

tommorrow im going to upgrade the system , reinstall the os
and go from there..does anyone have any advice for the sake
of saving me that time and trouble??? and please dont blame
it on the memory unless your positive thats the
problem.. :o)

does sonic foundry have a # i can call if i cant figure
this out tommorrow?? so far ive wasted 2 full days with
this... why the hell cant all this different video software
and hardware just get alongggggg???????

thanks to all who read this and reply...

- eddie -

Comments

SonyEPM wrote on 3/23/2001, 10:37 AM
After formatting (the only safe way to really truly remove
the Pinnacle codec and drivers)I'd get a Pyro, SIIG or
Orange Micro DV card, and a Sony DVMC DA2 media converter.
With this combination, you can input and/or output DV and
analog, with NO ZERO ZIP 3rd party drivers. The only
drivers you need will be installed by Windows, and you'll
get a very nice DV codec with Microsoft DirectX8. You will
not have to worry about the driver codec issue if you
upgrade to Whister/WinXP later-
lilpizan77 wrote on 3/23/2001, 12:40 PM
thats my plan eventually.. the pyro card , the sony , and
vegas.. problem is , im trying to set this up for a friend
of mine after i totally hyped vegas video as the editing
program of choice , and now i cant even get it to work..
the dc10 costs 100 bucks vs 350 bucks for the sony and then
75 for the pyro card..thats another 425 bucks i would need
to convince him to spend after telling him he needed more
memory , a larger hard drive , and a 400 dollar editing
program called vegas video...

with that said SonicEPM , do you have any sort of
suggestions at all?? or anyone else?? thanks to all who
reply..

- eddie -
SonyEPM wrote on 3/23/2001, 1:18 PM
you might as well bite the bullet and go with a true OHCI
1394 DV cards- these can be had for less than $75. For an
a/d converter, check these out:

http://sabre.forest.net/powerrinc-24/index.cfm


We haven't finished testing them yet, but we'll have
results next week.
lilpizan77 wrote on 3/23/2001, 2:09 PM
ok...so basically your telling me the dc10 blows and if i
want to get anything accomplished i need to spend more
dough.. i just hate not getting things to work and giving
up... maybe i can talk him into purchasing a newer low end
dv camcorder and return the dc10 for the pyro.. no other
suggestions?

- eddie -
jboy wrote on 3/23/2001, 2:45 PM
Rather than waste $300-$400 on a single purpose device, buy
a Sony TRV 120 digital8 camcorder, (check out
www.pricewatch.com-around $435 + $20 s+h). It has Analog
pass-thru, a 2 1/2" LCD screen, nightvision, blah, blah,
blah. A killer deal on a great little machine. Also, you
can enable Analog pass-thru on some older digital
camcorders by building a little gadget that costs about
$5.00 and downloading some free software. I would recommend
the TRV 120, it'll solve all your problems and is a great
bargain. Also, Sony camcorders seem to be the least
troublesome in these equations..
rebeccae wrote on 4/3/2001, 7:02 PM
Don't spend $350 on the Sony converter. Check out the Director's Cut a/dv converter at www.powerr.com. We're receiving
lots of excellent feedback from customers--the Director's Cut is simple, affordable and does the job.
Good luck!
timoheil wrote on 4/4/2001, 9:18 AM
will Vegas Video ever support any hardwired DV-codecs, that
is DV-card which encode/decode using their own chip. Or is
there a card which does it and which you would recommend.

The thing is that running a DV-Video in a MIDI-/Audio-
Sequenzer isn't much fun, as it takes away a lot of power
from the CPU which is needed for soft-instruments and
effects.

Our would you say that an analog MJPEG card is the best
solution for this....and here we go again: why shouldn't
you install the DC-10 for this purpose?
timoheil wrote on 4/5/2001, 7:04 AM
will Vegas Video ever support any hardwired DV-codecs, that
is DV-card which encode/decode using their own chip. Or is
there a card which does it and which you would recommend.

The thing is that running a DV-Video in a MIDI-/Audio-
Sequenzer isn't much fun, as it takes away a lot of power
from the CPU which is needed for soft-instruments and
effects.

Our would you say that an analog MJPEG card is the best
solution for this....and here we go again: why shouldn't
you install the DC-10 for this purpose?
SonyEPM wrote on 4/5/2001, 9:30 AM
This whole issue revolves around 3rd party driver hell,
which is a constant struggle for every software
manufacturer.

If you want my advice for a DV + analog setup that works
GREAT and has NO 3rd party drivers, go with a generic 1394
DV card such as Pyro or SIIG or Orange Link (and don't
install any of their software; let Windows use its own
driver) and add a Sony DVMC DA2 or PowerR Dv-to analog
converter.
timoheil wrote on 4/5/2001, 10:04 AM
I have the Pyro and it works flawlessly. But neither do I
own a DV-camcorder (I always lend one from a friend), nor a
converter for testings, but my question is: if you playback
a DV-movie in a program like Logic Audio, will it
automatically be output to firewire & a connected
converter? AFAIK Logic Audio somehow uses the Media Player
routines, so the question could also be: if I playback a DV-
movie in Windows Media Player, will it simultaniously be
output through firewire?
SonyEPM wrote on 4/6/2001, 9:47 AM
"if I playback a DV-movie in Windows Media Player, will it
simultaniously be output through firewire?"

sorry, no.