Former user wrote on 11/8/2007, 11:58 AM
Are you just wanting a copy of the DVD or are you wanting to re-author it?

Dave T2
dara wrote on 11/8/2007, 12:01 PM
reauthor and add videos from subsequent years--they're little growing family vids.
Former user wrote on 11/8/2007, 12:18 PM
I don't think DVD architect will allow import of the VOB files directly. (these are the files contained in the ts folder.).

But you could use the DVD import function on Sony Vegas. Use the MPEG file that is created on import (you don't have to edit it or put it on the timeline) as one of the video sources in DVD architect.

Dave T2
wafalcon wrote on 11/8/2007, 1:45 PM
One trick I use some times is actually to rename the files, and both DVD Architect and Vegas recognize it.

1) make sure "Hide extensions fro know file types" are unchecked. It can be found in: Folder options>View Tab>In the middle of the list after the cirlce buttons.

2) Download the VOB files on to your computer from the DVD.

3) Right click on the VOB file that you want to be renamed and choose rename in shortcut window.

4) Rename the file to any name ending with .mpeg
example: ABCD.mpeg

5) Click YES on the pop-up window, and now your file s are MPEG files that all applications can recognize.

Remember: Everytime you re-encode MPEG files, you will loos quality.

Hope this helped.
Good Luck!
4eyes wrote on 11/8/2007, 9:02 PM
The proper method is to use any program that supports importing dvd's and "Extracts" the mpeg2 video files from within it's VOB container.

The VOB files on the dvd are containers, the VOB files can hold more than one mpeg2 video file, so when you rename the vob to mpg IF there is more than one mpeg2 video file in the VOB container then your mpeg file is technically corrupt. To fix this issue you have to render it to a new mpeg2 file. The VOB containers may also contain subtitles along with other data or additional audio tracks.

Renaming the vob container can work, and also may not work. Depends on the source videos & authoring program. This can result in the program failing to render or crashing. Editing mpeg video is tricky if you don't know the source (how it was encoded & extracted from the media).

The best method is to use the import dvd feature, many other programs also have this feature, VMS, Vegas, Nero etc.

CorTed wrote on 11/9/2007, 11:14 AM
Would it make sense after importing the DVD's then to render out in AVI before attempting to do addtitional edits?
This to minimize render quality loss

nolonemo wrote on 11/9/2007, 1:50 PM
If I were doing this, since you're only adding to the existing video, I'd probably demux the video and audio that's in the vob using TMPGENC. That way, you can pull the demuxed mpg files into DVDA to author (along with the new stuff you have rendered to mpeg in Vegas) and the old video won't not be reencoded and suffer the quality hit. (The audio might, depending, but that would be less of a concern to me since home video audio usually isn't that great anyway).

Of course, if Vegas can act as a demuxer and let you save the demuxed video stream without reencoding (I don't know if it can, I'm still using an older version), then you can use that.
dara wrote on 11/11/2007, 10:48 PM
is the "hide extensions" in vegas or architect? I'm not sure where you are talking about.
rs170a wrote on 11/12/2007, 2:46 AM
is the "hide extensions" in vegas or architect?

Neither. It's a Windows option.
Double-click "My Computer" and then go Tools - Folder Options - View.
"Hide extensions for known file types" is about 1/2 way down this list.

Chienworks wrote on 11/12/2007, 4:27 AM
Ted, rendering to DV .avi as an intermediate would allow editing to go much faster, but it would also introduce more quality loss as you'll be converting from one compressed color space to another, and then converting back again. It's better to do an MPEG -> MPEG render than MPEG -> DV -> MPEG. Of course, you could use uncompressed AVI, but then you'll still get some more loss when re-encoding to MPEG at the end.

Starting with Vegas 8 there is now an MPEG smartrender feature that won't re-encode frames that are just being copied. This means that in a cuts-only situation you'll get no loss at all rendering MPEG -> MPEG, so in this case changing to DV or AVI would be a much worse choice.
dara wrote on 11/12/2007, 2:24 PM
thanks, that worked great--except the audio! the folder said that it was empty. any ideas?
JJKizak wrote on 11/12/2007, 2:28 PM
The audio TS folder is always empty and is for future use.
jetdv wrote on 11/12/2007, 2:29 PM
Audio_TS is typically empty. The audio for your DVD video is in the VOB files in the Video_TS folder.