Importing images to overlay over video

mark-y wrote on 3/21/2024, 9:59 AM

The aspect ratio of your images is not the cause.

However, aspect ratio is one thing you will deal with once the photos are on the timeline.

The red icon is telling you they are not in a format that Vegas accepts. To troubleshoot this, provide the complete MediaInfo details, so that someone can suggest a friendly format and app for conversion.

Also provide your Vegas version and build number.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 10:11 AM

Thank you, but they are just jpg images. Why would Vegas not accept them?

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 10:14 AM

Have just converted one to a png and it has accepted that, so I have a work around, but am a bit confused. Thanks!

**EDIT** Now it won't accept the png files. Totally confused.

Former user wrote on 3/21/2024, 10:28 AM

@Jon-W Do the MediaInfo that @mark-y asked for if you want to know.

The App in the link above is called MediaInfo, download it, it's free & a fast download with no added adverts or any of that rubbish. https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo
After downloading, right click on the media file in your Windows folder, open MediaInfo, choose Text from the options at the top, Copy & paste the information in a new comment on here 👍

Like this

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 3:22 PM

Hello thanks for this. I have Vegas 20.0 Build 411.

I have now converted files to png and it still won't accept them.

But it does accept the png files I made in gimp which are the same size as the video track.

I just don't get it!

Please help! Thank you.

General
Complete name : G:\My Drive\0. Vegas Film Projects\Rendered videos\4MFH Rendered videos\20230729 - Farr Family Episode A.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size : 67.7 MiB
Duration : 46 s 380 ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 12.2 Mb/s
Frame rate : 29.970 FPS
Encoded date : 2024-03-21 20:10:35 UTC
Tagged date : 2024-03-21 20:10:35 UTC

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 4 frames
Format settings, Slice count : 4 slices per frame
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 46 s 380 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 12.1 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 24.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.194
Stream size : 66.6 MiB (98%)
Language : English
Encoded date : 2024-03-21 20:10:37 UTC
Tagged date : 2024-03-21 20:10:37 UTC
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 46 s 379 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 483 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.05 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : 2024-03-21 20:10:35 UTC
Tagged date : 2024-03-21 20:10:35 UTC

Former user wrote on 3/21/2024, 3:35 PM

@Jon-W Thanks for that but you've created this post about jpg images that won't load but you've posted MediaInfo about the video, do the MediaInfo thing on the jpg before you converted it to png.

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 3:56 PM

I honestly am not sure what I am doing!

I just followed the mediainfo video! Let me try this again...

Thank you.

Jpg and png files...

Format : JPEG
File size : 386 KiB

Image
Format : JPEG
Width : 2 451 pixels
Height : 3 663 pixels
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 386 KiB (100%)

Format : PNG
Format/Info : Portable Network Graphic
File size : 7.00 MiB

Image
Format : PNG
Format/Info : Portable Network Graphic
Compression : Deflate
Width : 3 024 pixels
Height : 4 032 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 0.750
Color space : RGBA
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 7.00 MiB (100%)
Gamma : 0.455

mark-y wrote on 3/21/2024, 4:12 PM

JPEG images created using CMYK color space do not open in Vegas. RGB only.

Since you mentioned Gimp, something along those lines is highly suspect

.

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 4:23 PM

Thanks Mark, but I don't really know what this means. The colour space for the png files is RGBA, so this doesn't work either? How do I change my files to have the correct colour space? The more I get into this editing business, the more my head wants to implode.

j-v wrote on 3/21/2024, 4:39 PM

@Jon-W
Can you show here a screenshot of your Vegas UI state right before you try to drag a picture above the videotrack?

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 4:43 PM

Sorry, what do you mean by Vegas UI state please?

mark-y wrote on 3/21/2024, 4:56 PM

Just upload a couple of your images that won't open in Vegas to Drive or Dropbox and post the link here.

Thanks. Learning about standard color spaces will take you some time.

j-v wrote on 3/21/2024, 5:02 PM

Sorry, what do you mean by Vegas UI state please?

I mean this:

Mostly tells a picture more than thousand words

bvideo wrote on 3/21/2024, 5:07 PM

Mediainfo for @Jon-W displays "color space: YUV" even when the jpg is tagged as "sRGB". That is quite common; it is not necessary to embed an ICC for that tag. Mediainfo does not display the embedded "sRGB" tag. In @mark-y 's display, there is the YUV tag, but there is also "Colorspace_ICC:RGB", which is redundant when the sRGB tag is present.

Conclusion: mediainfo is not showing anything wrong.

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 5:29 PM

Ok thanks everyone. This is my Vegas UI state

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 5:33 PM

And this is one of the jpg images that won't upload and also a png converted one. I just checked and the gimp produced pngs are still going in fine.

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 5:33 PM

jpg file. One above is png.

mark-y wrote on 3/21/2024, 5:52 PM

Jon, if you are still curious, upload the actual source images to Drive or Dropbox, and post the link here.

If not, that's entirely ok, but for future reference, posting images to the forum is not helpful for troubleshooting purposes, because they will have been converted by upstream AWS servers, and all of their original metadata has been replaced.

Since you seem to have found a workaround, I'll bow out now and wish you good luck going forward with your project.

j-v wrote on 3/21/2024, 5:53 PM

Ok thanks everyone. This is my Vegas UI state

I don't see pictures you want to drag to the timeline

Jon-W wrote on 3/21/2024, 5:59 PM

@mark-y I haven't found a workaround as the pngs are not working. The only workaround seems to be importing them all into gimp. Which is a pain! Will do a google drive link to files.

@j-v There aren't any pictures as Vegas Pro won't let me import them.

j-v wrote on 3/22/2024, 6:01 AM

@j-v There aren't any pictures as Vegas Pro won't let me import them.

What has Vegas to do when you want to put pictures on a location of your computer?

EricLNZ wrote on 3/22/2024, 5:26 PM

Will do a google drive link to files

@Jon-W We await the files so we can find what is unusual about them

Jon-W wrote on 3/22/2024, 5:35 PM

Thanks everyone. Here is the link to a jpg and converted png file: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BZTqj6Zd7rGwR3RXt669fhV8uiSCf4H2?usp=sharing

mark-y wrote on 3/22/2024, 5:42 PM

@Jon-W

While we're waiting, I was curious if the originals were scanned by you and saved in Gimp, or are they some you downloaded?

I have my own photo archiving and restoration business, I inherited a number of original prints from the early 1900s.