Hi @alifftudm95

If you post a downloadable copy of the original footage, I will run some tests with Vegas' (and some other) stabilizers to see what can be done. I agree, the results in your video above are not satisfactory.

You can download the original footage here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=17NTL_qXtQjbyh-8b5K-Fr07PxZ0-E238

4K 29.97FPS Video Clip.

If you have a CMOS fixer plug-in available – applying a CMOS fixing before using stabilization can help. Also cut-off start and end of your clip and make a subclip before using stabilization.

If you have a CMOS fixer plug-in available – applying a CMOS fixing before using stabilization can help. Also cut-off start and end of your clip and make a subclip before using stabilization.

Means I need to have another plug in to fix the problem. plus even with CMOS plugin, it does fix the shake but in the same time it add that weird bump in the middle.

@alifftudm95

Sorry, for the delay... very very busy.

In short: so far no luck getting good result with Vegas' stabilizer. Don't think it likes short/sharp shocks. Better with larger sweeping motions.

Mercalli plug-in does a great job of this; as good or better than PP warp. Resolve looks OK too. Will keep trying in spare time.

Same result at my place, Mercalli 4 SAL and plug-in gives as good result as PP. Vegas stabs result is even worse than original.

Here's a comparison of three alternate stabilizers, the venerable Deshaker, Mercalli 2 and Mercalli 4. Of the three Mercalli 4 appears best to me. Interestingly enough, Deshaker appears most similar to the Premiere Pro stabilization. You will note the large zoom in at the end of the clip.

Here's a comparison of three alternate stabilizers, the venerable Deshaker, Mercalli 2 and Mercalli 4. Of the three Mercalli 4 appears best to me. Interestingly enough, Deshaker appears most similar to the Premiere Pro stabilization. You will note the large zoom in at the end of the clip.

I did use Free Trial mercalli 4 plugins, but the results sometimes is not that good. So I still thinking in buying one the plugins. Anyway is the Deshaker is a 3rd party plugins for VEGAS Pro? how much does it cost?

Deshaker https://www.guthspot.se/video/deshaker.htm is a VirtualDub plugin and as such is considered freeware. You can download both and do such stabilization in a standalone mode at no cost.

Deshaker is also included in the HappyOtterScripts toolset https://tools4vegas.com/ and as such is integrated with Vegas. Be warned that there is a bit of a learning curve for using Deshaker as a standalone and as part of HOS. Deshaker is also a lot slower than either Mercalli 2 or Mercalli 4, but it does work reasonably well and there are advanced options not available in other stabilizers.

Here is a screengrab of the Deshaker dialog in HOS, that is similar to the dialog found when using VirtualDub.

After several years of stabilizing in Vegas with the different available stabilizers for Vegas, for me Mercalli 4 plugin is still the best. Just for stabilizing interlaced footage, I use the SAL version of Mercalli 4.

I liked years ago deshaker, also with good results, but when using deshaker you also need lots of time.

I would also like the new Vegas stabilizer, because the analyse and the final render is very fast, but the results are too unpredictable. Hopefully this will change in future updates.

^ +1 VP stabilize doesn't like complex gimbal / warp moves on a w/angle

For a number of years I opened 5 instances of Deshaker & had them all working on different source videos using some tried & true templates. However, I now use Mercalli 4 stand-alone & have 2 instances per workstation batch-processing source video. Running 2 with 9900K at 100% my Mercalli settings take 2X-3X the length of the video, so together about 1.5X the length of video needing processed. On a 2nd track I drop the source footage so if Mercalli didn't handle it in batch, I can manually reapply Mercalli 4 in Vegas with more aggressive settings. The 4.0 Xeons are much slower but they can run when I am editing on the 9900K...

It would have been nice for Vegas to bundle Mercalli 4 plugins & stand-alone with Vegas 16, but they didn't, so I didn't buy 16 & am waiting to see what 17 does with GPU enhanced renders, etc... I would have been willing to pay more for a Mercalli-specific bundle - as long as it saved me some over buying it separate...

I got Mercalli 4 and after expirinmenting with it for several years feel if it can't fix your footage to usable, you should reshoot:)

While I agree that Mercalli 4 is about as good as it gets, there are situations where it simply doesn't work. E.g. I like to do road trip documentaries. If a very large object comes into view such as a large truck or a tree on the side of the road, Mercalli always drifts toward that object making the stabilized video pretty unrealistic at best. In such situations, I've fallen back to using Deshaker in which one can select which part of the visual field is to be used for computing the stabilization parameters. You can also create a mask on the track above so that only a portion of the video is used (I haven't tried this trick with Mercalli, but I doubt it would work since it uses only the clip itself for its first pass). In any case, having both in your toolbox is better than just one.

@.wwaag

You are aware that Mercalli has different presets for different scenarios?

@3POINT

Of course. I've been a user of Mercalli since V1 and have purchased and used all versions except V3. Although slow, their CMOS fixer is terrific when needed IMHO. While Mercalli 4 is the best all around in my view, at $400 for a complete package, it's a bit pricey for some users and there are still some things it doesn't do well.

OK, that shows that you're experienced user. At the moment, I'm redoing some older HDV projects with Mercalli 4 SAL because the results are each time astonishing. Nevertheless there are scenes where I had better results with Newdeshaker at the time that I edited those projects the first time. I think there's no Stabilizer which can handle all scenarios.

Indeed, in combination with CMOSfixer the results of Mercalli are even incredible.

I really hope that also the Vegas stabilizer will become as good as Mercalli.

I skipped upgrading to Vegas 16 with built-in Mercalli 2 (?) to pay for Mercalli 4 & CMOSfixer stand-alone plus the included Vegas plugins. The cost was $290 US after a 20% OFF coupon & tax... If I shoot it myself, it is relatively stable but I often get footage clients shot themselves. I apply my Mercalli presets as a part of the up-front quote. If they want more tweaks, they pay by the hour. Usually Mercalli is enough & the customer is happy the final is much better than the original. Yes, for shots that involve a lot of panning I sometimes still have to go back to some Deshaker templates I created for that very reason.

I got Mercalli 4 and after expirinmenting with it for several years feel if it can't fix your footage to usable, you should reshoot:)

I use premiere pro warp stabilizer and it does fix the jitter. Every gimbal will produce micro jitter and later on they fix it in post.

Best would be to eliminate the jitter / sharp movements during filming, otherwise you are always having to deal with the CMOS rolling shutter distortion. Sure, PP can warp it to look ok, as can Mercalli & CMOS fixer, but the footage is still damaged from the start.

A camera with good IBIS would likely help a lot. Probably, so would a bigger / better gimbal - but I don't use one, so just a guess. :) Maybe you could rent a bigger gimbal?

"Every gimbal will produce micro jitter and later on they fix it in post."

This is far from true.

I passed the sample clip posted here along to the team so they can use it to improve the stabilizer's performance.