Instagram video

set wrote on 10/12/2016, 8:17 AM

I thought the problem was from SonyAVC (Using Vegas Pro 13), but after I tried, it works ok.

However, the quality of upload may vary to different phones. When I upload my video from my older Lenovo S920 (Android OS), the playback of video is not smooth. Very bad. But after I use Meizu M2 Note (Android OS), the result is great.

What phone did you use?

Kaner wrote on 10/12/2016, 8:31 AM

Thank You Set for your answer,

I tried Mainconcept but it looks so bad, maybe I didn't set the settings properly, I will try it again.

Anyway I can't use any template because I want to set a custom resolution of 1080 (width) and 1920 (height), it is like a rotated HD, I want this for the stories of instagram, not for the main profile, so I have to edit this setting.

My phone is a samsung s6 edge

set wrote on 10/12/2016, 8:37 AM

Ah, I see... I haven't experiment with that feature... so looks like the video is 'locked' to portrait mode ?

Looks like I need to try that too...

May I know your IG account?

set wrote on 10/12/2016, 8:48 AM

Update: I just experiment with story, only use the 1280x720 material (so the video is enlarged and crop to portrait mode). The source is MP4 rendered with SonyAVC, at 16Mbps (default SonyAVC Internet 720p settings).

Wish I know how to share the IG story link... but, probably need to follow my IG first... search 'set_chung'

Kaner wrote on 10/12/2016, 8:57 AM

I've seen your stories and I don't want my vids get cropped but make the vid on purpose exactly with that format

update: maybe when you change the templates to set the resolution the render is not valid for IG

set wrote on 10/12/2016, 9:09 AM

Yep - even the enlarged-quality goes very bad... low-res alike... I don't want like that too...

Let me try experiment with this🛠

UPDATE1 : VegasPro13 SonyAVC cannot render the 1080x1920 settings... - My only choice is Mainconcept - try with 1080x1920 8Mbps settings.

set wrote on 10/12/2016, 10:10 AM

Looks like IG Story's per slide video is limited ONLY to 10 seconds.... So, as previously mentioned, I only able to use Mainconcept AVC for this - 1080x1920 8Mbps 30p settings (but I'm sure 25p also work), and it is available only for 24 hours on my IG account: 'set_chung'. For me, the quality is good - but need other viewer's opinion... I only use photograph taken by my Meizu M2 Note phone, and make pan&scan motion from it.

Enjoy the 'Nasi Goreng' picture in my story! 😁🍚😅

Kaner wrote on 10/12/2016, 11:01 AM

Thank you, the quality of your videos in Mainconcept AVC is nice enough, so I have to test it again :)

NickHope wrote on 10/12/2016, 11:36 AM

IG video is 640x640 (after they re-encode it) isn't it? If so, might be simpler to do the resizing locally and upload that resolution.

set wrote on 10/12/2016, 4:54 PM

This is the new feature of IG, Nick...: Instagram Stories. (CNET review) - following Snapchat's feature. Only viewable from phone... (admit it that just tried it yesterday - so that food picture is my first one 😄)

Update: Use this Chrome extension to view IG Stories directly from Desktop Chrome browser. Then, just browse to Instagram's site.

The Instagram has changed a lot lately, from Square only video/photo - now you can post Non-Square one (Can post very wide landscape orientation of photo / video - but in portrait mode, it is more limited). Also for video, duration is no longer 15 seconds - now 1 minute max.

Our video can be downloaded to local device (in case you are filming directly from IG Story feature - and want to save it). Just analyzed with MediaInfo:

General
Complete name                            : D:\Test\20161012 Test IG_Stories\Final Encoded\VID_21450126_062009..mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 654 KiB
Duration                                 : 10 s 48 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 533 kb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf56.40.101

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Baseline@L3
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, ReFrames                : 3 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 9 s 977 ms
Bit rate                                 : 480 kb/s
Width                                    : 480 pixels
Height                                   : 852 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 0.562
Original display aspect ratio            : 0.563
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.039
Stream size                              : 585 KiB (89%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 148
Encoding settings                        : cabac=0 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=8 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=25.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=2027 / vbv_bufsize=4055 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=2:1.00
Language                                 : English

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 10 s 48 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 48.0 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 2 028 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 59.7 KiB (9%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

hmmm - I always over-size the video rather than exact one (in this case - 720x1280 is enough)... but will try the exact 480x852 size later.
*(Also just regrab my posted Instagram video - it is 480x480 for square video, but 480x270 for 16:9 aspect ratio)

Kaner wrote on 10/13/2016, 12:11 PM

I've just downloaded two story videos with StorySave (app for android) and the resolution they both have are:

640x1136 (rotated 16:9)

greg-b wrote on 10/13/2016, 4:26 PM

I had something similar with GoPro and Sony ActionCam video. The video from the camera is mp4. When I tried to render it to mp4 it either didn't work or looked bad. Both GoPro and Sony offer compatible software that converts the mp4 to .AVI for editing in NLE like Vegas.

I compared it to compressing, a compressed backup file from QuickBooks. QuickBooks compresses the back up file. If you then use a backup utility, it compresses the file agian, the result is a useless backup of QB. There is no way to uncompress and a read the backup becasue it was compressed twice.

In Vegas, it's the same theory, you are tyring to compress a video already compressed. Conversation to .AVI solves the problem because .AVI is uncompressed. Does that make sense?

NickHope wrote on 10/14/2016, 1:14 AM

In Vegas, it's the same theory, you are tyring to compress a video already compressed. Conversation to .AVI solves the problem because .AVI is uncompressed.

.AVI is a container format, like .MOV or .MP4 or .MXF etc.. The video within it can be uncompressed but is not necessarily. In the case of GoPro, the software they offer will convert it to the Cineform codec, which is near-lossless and edit-friendly but it still has intra-frame compression. It's definitely not uncompressed. Uncompressed files are enormous.

greg-b wrote on 10/14/2016, 3:11 AM

In Vegas, it's the same theory, you are tyring to compress a video already compressed. Conversation to .AVI solves the problem because .AVI is uncompressed.

.AVI is a container format, like .MOV or .MP4 or .MXF etc.. The video within it can be uncompressed but is not necessarily. In the case of GoPro, the software they offer will convert it to the Cineform codec, which is near-lossless and edit-friendly but it still has intra-frame compression. It's definitely not uncompressed. Uncompressed files are enormous.

Thanks for the clarification.

jozef-pavlik wrote on 3/21/2018, 12:27 PM

640x640

AVsupport wrote on 3/21/2018, 5:33 PM

I wished VP had stronger Social Media features, such as direct upload to Instagram or Facebook accounts. This could give VP the upper hand to some other NLE's.

Insta is notoriously tricky to upload to, and my latest tests also show the drastic quality loss (i used avc nvenc) sadly.

Perhaps there's a way to share some Custom Output Presets that work ok?

[investigating hootsuite next..]

set wrote on 3/21/2018, 6:21 PM

Based on my experience, the portrait resolution is 720x900.

(864x1080)

And I used that template to create these (since I also upload to Youtube for archival purpose - I set the project to 864x1080)

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf_MNYSj_qo/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgftxaglM6a/

And customize the rendering template to that resolution, and give bitrate of 4Mbps.

If square resolution is needed, I left it 1080x1080 ( https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfuv3jGDQ6T/ )

wwjd wrote on 3/21/2018, 8:08 PM

is vertical the highest resolution? We've been dumping 1920x1080 HD video up and it downscales and looks like crap. I tried a 4Mbps and it was way worse. Ideas???

Edited in VP15, GH4

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgW9HuQjJaw/?taken-by=wade_thalberg

AVsupport wrote on 3/21/2018, 9:03 PM

this seems an interesting starting point..

http://www.premieregal.com/blog/2017/1/26/instagram-video-formats-export-settings-for-premiere-pro

obviously Insta doesn't adhere to standard TV aspect ratios; any deviation I suspect will end up in (unwanted) recompression. Will have to investigate 1800x945 vs 1080x...

/edit: Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Portrait or Square; Landscape (1.91:1) seems the closest to my native 16:9 (1.77:1) which I would prefer..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

Jam_One wrote on 3/22/2018, 11:33 AM

This looks to me as the original source of "laws of engagement":

https://www.facebook.com/business/m/one-sheeters/video-requirements

Where "Instagram Feed" & "Instagram Stories" are the items of interest.

Guiding steps to the world domination are also outlined here:
https://www.facebook.com/business/ads-guide/video/instagram-feed
To obtain the sacred knowledge about Instagram Stories be advised to select the "Instagram Stories" in drop-down menu right underneath the "Choose your ad placement" line.

set wrote on 3/22/2018, 12:02 PM

Correct... in the past I also cannot accept portrait video too, but after hearing a friend who expert in marketing showing this, the reason of doing portrait..., now I finally understand why you will need to use that 9:16 or 4:5 aspect ratio.

In the past, video are limited to the little box called TV, and television has only one aspect ratio: 4:3... then arrive the film cinema and all innovations around it, and finally able to have a standard 2.35:1

After years too, TV has innovation to Widescreen format of 16:9...

But then, the arrival of internet, social media, instagram, etc..., actually we are not restricted any further with those aspect ratio..., you have more freedom of selecting the best aspect ratio that suits your need.

AVsupport wrote on 1/25/2019, 10:57 PM

Has there been any inroads of better editing for Instagram? 1:1 aspect ratio..dedicated export options, etc?