Is Anamorphic Wide Screen possible in VV?

DataMeister wrote on 2/18/2002, 7:17 PM
Has anyone out there tried editing anamorphic wide screen video? I'm wondering if it is possible. If Vegas Video lets you work in Wide Screen format, what would the resolution of the project be set to? I know the raw footage from the camera would be 720x480 pixels, but that would have to be stretched out to a 16:9 format in order view it accurately.

I've been pondering on this for a while trying to decide if I wanted to invest the money in a wide screen lens and viewing monitors. So, let me know, has anyone tried this method of high resolution wide screen from Vegas Video?

JBJones

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FuTz wrote on 2/18/2002, 11:44 PM
If you can afford it, GO with the WideScreen setup.
1- You won't be lost when this happens (everything will be figured out after this "adaptation period" you'll already have)
2- Cause this is what's gonna come next. Period. In these very next few years. With High Definition and when NTSC standard is crunched (why did we went with THIS one, anyway???!!!!??? Like Beta and VHS???!!!??? Power source??? I HOPE we have a GOOD reason!!!!!)

Unless what you're looking for/ trying to craft is kind of "The price is Right", replays of "The Dukes of Hazard"/"6Million Dollar Man"/ some Quizz, somewhere from somewhere...
Plus: If you record the images yourself, you'll already be familiar with the 16:9 frame to compose... all the difference in the world and lots of questioning too...
down1023 wrote on 2/22/2002, 12:24 PM
hey jb, being a student/independent filmmaker, i always need to find work-arounds. i'm currently shooting a short film(video?) on my sony handycam. but i'm not shooting in widescreen (on my camera, if i shoot in widescreen, the image stabilization is deactivated). i simply apply a widescreen matte over the entire video (b&w image of black bars at top and bottom). that way i have no resolution issues and the video playback is compatible with all televisions. an issue i've run into with working in widescreen is that not all televisions support this and simply stretch the video vertically. one more thing, i don't even use the 16:9 aspect ratio. i use 2.35:1. this is what's commonly used in the film industry and i find that it gives video more of a film look. hope this helps.
DataMeister wrote on 2/22/2002, 12:40 PM
The only problem with using the black bars method, is that you loose quite a bit of resolution. On a 20" television that is not a problem, but when you start getting up around 40" or larger the extra resolution that the anamorphic process gives will make quite a difference.
zerofill23 wrote on 3/16/2003, 5:58 PM
does the limit of VV to 800 pixels,make any diference??specialy with anamorphic and big tv's???what setting do you use in VV to output pal 16:9????
Paul_Holmes wrote on 3/16/2003, 8:36 PM
I've worked on anamorphic produced in camera (camera chops off the top and bottom and stretches it vertically after leaving the CCD). Anamorphic works great in Vegas, whether done in-camera or through an anamorphic lens. With an anamorphic lens you're just going to get about 120 more lines of vertical resolution captured than with in-camera -- but since DV doesn't allow for more than 720X480, that's what you'll get. However you do it, just bring it into Vegas and use the 16X9 templates to edit. On the computer monitor you'll see it wide-screen, on a 4X3 TV it will look squashed horizontally.
seeker wrote on 3/16/2003, 9:58 PM
ZeroFill,

"...does the limit of VV to 800 pixels,make any diference??"

No, as Paul explained, the widescreen 16:9 DV format also has 720x480 pixels per frame. The only difference being in the aspect ratio of the pixels, which are wider for widescreen. So the current Vegas 800 pixel limit is not a limitation for widescreen.

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seeker wrote on 3/16/2003, 10:06 PM
JB,

"The only problem with using the black bars method, is that you loose quite a bit of resolution."

I agree. That is why using an anamorphic taking lens is a good idea if you can afford it. That way you don't lose any vertical resolution. I think we may have discussed this in another message thread, but here are a couple of relevant links:

http://www.optexint.com/digivid/anamorph.htm

http://www.centuryoptics.com/products/dv/4/16x9_adapter/index.htm

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