Is SteadyHand by DynaPel still around?

RalphM wrote on 3/25/2010, 1:34 PM
I've got about three minutes of some handheld telephoto zoomed SDV that shows how shakey (more of a jitter) I am. Recalling that many years ago, I purchased SteadyHand, I went searching and found the downloaded file, but the registration number is now long gone to who knows where.

I plugged it into the demo copy of SteadyHand and the default results were very good (except for the big orange logo right in the middle of the frames. Just what I need, but I guess DynaPel is no more as I can't find anywhere to purchase a new version.

So... I downloaded the demo of New Blue's stabilizer. After spending many hours trying the presets, then modifying the settings, then trying again, I can't get anything that is appreciably better than the original footage. I'm assuming that I'm doing something wrong, but I'm not encouraged that NB is going to give me what I need.

Does anyone know if Dynapel still exists?

Thanks,
RalphM

Comments

ritsmer wrote on 3/25/2010, 1:44 PM
Why not try the "New deshaker" - I use it much -It's here: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=21&MessageID=658779
PerroneFord wrote on 3/25/2010, 1:59 PM
Three minutes? Send it to me and I'll make it look like you were on a tripod.
Bill Ravens wrote on 3/25/2010, 2:29 PM
My vote goes to Prodad's Mercalli....it's pretty nice, but, not free.
PerroneFord wrote on 3/25/2010, 2:58 PM
My vote goes to DeShaker. It's the same as Prodad's Mercalli, with more options, and is free.
jrazz wrote on 3/25/2010, 3:04 PM
It's not the same as prodad's offering as DeShaker is able to look at previous frames and future frames to fill in borders.

j razz
PerroneFord wrote on 3/25/2010, 3:10 PM
I thought that would be covered under "more options"...
jrazz wrote on 3/25/2010, 7:48 PM
Not trying to pick a fight or anything as I am not usually confrontational on this forum. However, my goal was to just point out that it really isn't the same. Mercalli does not and cannot look behind or ahead on the timeline which really limits its ability to steady footage and fill in the edges with media that looks like it should be there.

If you invest a little time in trying to understand DeShaker and its settings, it is definitely worth the time.

j razz
PerroneFord wrote on 3/25/2010, 8:01 PM
I am agreeing with you 100%
jrazz wrote on 3/25/2010, 8:01 PM
One can't argue with that :)

Have a good night Perrone!

j razz
Bill Ravens wrote on 3/25/2010, 8:03 PM
beauty is in the eye of the yaddah yaddah
Sierra Nomad Photography wrote on 3/25/2010, 8:41 PM
I got Steadyhand a few years ago; then I found Deshaker. In my experience Deshaker yields much better results if you take the time to learn what the different settings are for.

There have been a few times that I wasn't entirely happy with the results I got from Deshaker, and ran it through Steadyhand. Steadyhand's rendition has always immediately gone in my Trash Can.

Jon
PeterDuke wrote on 3/26/2010, 1:47 AM
SteadyHand is now available from GooderVideo
http://www.goodervideo.com/products/SH.html
Good luck with trying to get your old registration details

I understand that it only works with Microsoft DV AVI files, but not certain.
Grazie wrote on 3/26/2010, 2:23 AM
My rating and why:

Steadyhand - When I got it, I thought it was magic. It's not a plugin into Vegas but I found a way around that.

Deshaker (JM Edition!) - Worked as it should; was envious of V-Dubbers understanding the V-Dub filters stuff. But was then got to be wholly using it in pref to SH (yeah I know, I paid for SH . . ). Moving on . . .

Mercalli! - Now here's a s/w package that makes life simpler for me. Still saw the value of DS(JM) and remained on the fence. Why? I'd paid for Merc, so I was damn well gonna use it!! - moving on . . .

. . still moving on . . time passes . . .

NEW DESHAKER!! - Now, this is got what I want. An almost fully featured GUI with the all important Roll-Over Tool Tips - just this one bit of intelligent foresight adds much to my understanding of what I am doing - this is real additionally. AND it does the real VooDoo with pre and post frame infill.

What I need now is an option to understand and pick V-Dub filters for New DS.

Hey, one day 4 years ago (?) I dreamt of a Deshake Script - John made one! Possibly a V-Dub filter/picker/demystifier could be intelligently brought together?

Re-cap: NDS is now up on my Toolbar and is my first weapon of choice. Merc is almost a second choice now, and use it to see if a quick and easy template will kill something.

But all of this pales into insignificance as I am just such a steady shooter anyway.

Grazie

PerroneFord wrote on 3/26/2010, 4:50 AM
In the past week, I've taught two people who've never used VDub to use the Deshaker to good effect. For the life of me, I don't see what's so hard about it.

I spent a day playing with things, and *reading the instructions*, learned what all the settings were for, tried it on a few test clips, and voila... demystified.

The only things I don't bother with are the initial search range because they just don't matter all that much to me. But the rest of it isn't really all that tricky.

And for the record, I rarely use frame fill. I either zoom by it (since I frame for it when shooting) or I leave borders and key the frames myself in post, which is infinitely cleaner. Believe me, those edge fills are VERY obvious on the big screen.
TeetimeNC wrote on 3/26/2010, 6:29 AM
I tried the New Blue Stabilizer and like the OP, I wasn't able to get any appreciable improvment on my footage.

I use After Effects for stabilizing footage and have been happy with the results. I just wish for a comparable tool that I could use from within Vegas. Does New Deshaker work from within Vegas? If so, are there any limits on the type of footage; eg, can I deshake AVCHD footage?

Jerry
PerroneFord wrote on 3/26/2010, 7:19 AM
Apparently, the NewDeshaker works with any footage (but this is a misnomer because it's just doing background renders). It failed every time I tried it, so I just passed on it since it really isn't saving me any time.
RalphM wrote on 3/26/2010, 9:39 AM
Thanks for the replies. The footage I'm trying to stabilize resembles a traffic cam on a tall pole on a windy day (jitter). While I realize the SteadyHand is really old stuff, my experiences with the new offerings are (Running V9.0c 64):

NewBlue - did not really improve the jitter.

Mercalli - Installs to an earlier version of Vegas (6) but does not function there. (I probably missed a dialog box somewhere)

VirtualDub - Claims that it cannot install to folders that are known to exist, so I cannot get to the point of trying new DeShaker. I may try it on my 32 bit laptop.

The video I'm working on is pro-bono, so that makes it all the more frustrating.
Spending the $70 dollars for a new key looks more attractive by the hour.

RalphM

ritsmer wrote on 3/26/2010, 10:52 AM
SIR! Grazie! SIR!
Please do not forget the El Cutty Deshaker Vegas plugin.
SIR!
Grazie wrote on 3/26/2010, 11:21 AM
I did . .I did! - Apologies.

Grazie
PerroneFord wrote on 3/26/2010, 1:13 PM
Last offer...

If you can get me the 3 minutes, I'll do it for you for free. I've got 2 hours left in my day at the office.
RalphM wrote on 3/26/2010, 1:50 PM
PerroneFord,

Thank you for your generous offer. After flailing about and grumbling, I was able (a few minutes ago) to install New Deshaker on my 32 bit laptop.

Testing about 10 seconds of the shakey video with just the default settings is a huge improvement. Even if I do not tweak the settings, the video will be very usable.

Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions.

Does New Deshaker run only in the 32 bit version of V9?

RalphM

PerroneFord wrote on 3/26/2010, 2:09 PM
GOOD! Glad to hear you've had some success. More than me in the new deshaker thingy it seems! :)
JJKizak wrote on 3/26/2010, 3:40 PM
It also works in the 64 bit version and the 32 bit version on the same machine.
JJK
ritsmer wrote on 3/27/2010, 9:54 AM
SIR! Grazie SIR! Thank you SIR!