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fr0sty wrote on 3/20/2020, 10:27 PM

I imagine that would depend on where you live. I know I'd hire someone who was familiar with Vegas, if I were looking for an editor. Many places use adobe's suite, Vegas is still an up and comer when it comes to becoming an industry standard, but it's by far a better editor in my opinion. In the end, all NLE's do the same thing, some just do it slightly differently along the way. I can, with my knowledge of Vegas, jump on any other NLE and can find my way around after no more than a day of playing with it. So, there's nothing wrong with becoming proficient at Vegas, even if you find a job that prefers to use another app. You'll be able to learn the other software quickly, and if you find you prefer Vegas, you might even be able to show them why you do, and get them to make the switch.

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Former user wrote on 3/20/2020, 11:12 PM

I think you would be hardpressed to find a production company looking for a Vegas editor. You will find many positions for Avid, Premiere and a few still probably for Final Cut. Avid is the industry standard. They were the first to support frame accurate digital editing, and to incorporate film indexing as part of the EDL. Final Cut was industry preferred for a while because of its high power and low cost but when Final Cut X came out, it lost a lot of seats. Premiere has filled in some for Final Cut and with its integration into other Adobe Products (After Effects, Photoshop) it has gained a lot of ground in the industry. Resolve started as a Color Correction program but has been playing catch up in editing. It may be one of the final winners in the game. You, unfortunately, will not find Vegas competing against those. It is a fantastic editor but was late to the game in supporting hardware solutions and just didn't catch on in the industry. It is a shame, but it is the truth.

Vegas is very popular among the one-man band productions because of its flexibility and low cost. It also caught on with the gaming community because it was easy to hack.

A little perspective. Early Avid editing systems were Mac only and would cost around $250,000 for the basic, non-broadcast quality system. Avid also required $30,000 or more annually to get updates and tech support. They dominated the off-line editing market for several years (creating EDLs for on-line finishing or film finishes). Final Cut started as a DV editing system but jumped on the HD bandwagon early. For under $10,000 you could get a complete HD editing system with optical data lines, lots of storage and networking capabilities. Quite a bargain for production companies considering that upgrading an Avid system could cost 10s of thousands. Premiere was always kind of the third guy until Adobe started integrating their software. It was in the sub-$5000 range but did not include hardware, only suggested systems. It was slow to catch on. Vegas was a DV editor for a long time but did not require specific hardware so became a favorite for the small-one room production and one-man band guys. It could run on any modern computer and has a strong feature set. Plus it started as an audio program so you had a great audio production and video in one package. The audio support for the other NLEs started very basic. The other systems were very hardware dependent to the point that Avids came with the specific hardware for along time. You could not just buy the software. Since Final Cut was an Apple program, it also came with specific hardware. Premiere needed some additional PC hardware to run proficiently, but Vegas just buzzed on any computer.

Former user wrote on 3/21/2020, 4:59 AM

Labor Market? no. I used to watch a livestream of an editor who worked for a production company that edited a number of big youtuber's videos. They used multiple editors on each video, working on different stages of each video. They used adobe premiere/After effects. The need for standardisation would mean you couldn't have 1 guy editing in vegas.

If you were working for yourself would be different.

fred-w wrote on 3/21/2020, 2:28 PM

Vegas is very popular among the one-man band productions because of its flexibility and low cost. It also caught on with the gaming community because it was easy to hack.

A little perspective. Early Avid editing systems were Mac only and would cost around $250,000 for the basic, non-broadcast quality system. Avid also required $30,000 or more annually to get updates and tech support. They dominated the off-line editing market for several years......(etc.)...Premiere needed some additional PC hardware to run proficiently, but Vegas just buzzed on any computer.

@Former user Has provided a brilliant, no nonsense, accurate synopsis of who is who and what is what in NLE world. Everyone should read.

I'd ad that music vid people would also go for Vegas, under the "one man band" idea, and the audio advantages of Vegas cannot be overstated. Vegas also has suffered from a lack of vision and/or management acumen (control issues?) that would have better leveraged the might of Sony (big fail) and now Magix and taken better advantage of it's inherent strengths. It has floundered and shot itself in the foot. It's still not happening.

fr0sty wrote on 3/22/2020, 2:42 AM

Vegas already has integration with apps like Vegas Effects, Vegas Image, Vegas Stream, and probably more to come, so it is matching Adobe in that space. As a long time AE user, I actually prefer VE in many cases. It comes bundled with plugins for motion graphics that cost thousands to add to AE, which lacks them out of the box. Granted, the same applies the other way around (like Mocha integration in AE), but considering this is VE's first version, I'd say it's off to a good start.

As for production companies that use Vegas, that would depend on what kind of work you are looking to get into. For people like us, we'd much rather have the flexibility Vegas offers of being able to run on any system, as we often edit in the field (like when doing daily recaps for festivals) and if a laptop goes down, we need to throw it on another system quick and keep on trucking. Vegas' completely hardware agnostic approach, all the way down to HDR support, is a must for production companies like us. Any company that spends a lot of time editing in the field would benefit from it.

That's why I say there is no harm in learning Vegas. It's low cost, extremely versatile, will run on more systems than any other app (besides premiere), its ease of use and "let's treat video like a DAW treats audio" approach to editing is something that will also have you feeling right at home if you start messing with editing audio in a DAW, so you're learning an app that familiarizes you with multiple types of other apps. From there, if you find a production house that uses AVID, premiere, etc... making the switch won't be as difficult.

Most of these apps have demos, so try them all, and see what fits you best.

 

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