Just Finished a 5 hour show.....feedback...

AZEdit wrote on 1/31/2004, 10:41 PM
Just wanted to say HOW GREAT it was using Vegas....I have used Avid Symphony in the past...and using Vegas I just finished a 5- hour Corporate Business Plan and report for a client. I had digitized 12 hours of DVCAM tape- 111 gigs worth and I had 8 layers of audio and 10 layers of video. When I was finished I had to encode the material for DVD (after creating generic and final AVI's)....using Vegas's on board Mainconcept encoder...it took less than real-time- about 45 minutes under! Extremely pleased with everything!!! Just wanted to post some positive Long-Format feedback! The Avi's took about 1.5 to 3 times realtime (encoded in segments)- but I had alot of FX...plug-n-pack 3D and Pixilan FX...along with color correction, keys and pan and crop moves.....

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GaryKleiner wrote on 1/31/2004, 11:03 PM
Thanks for sharing :-)

Gary
Fleshpainter wrote on 2/1/2004, 1:38 AM
I'm just curious as to how many hours it took for the entire project.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 2/1/2004, 1:49 AM
5 hour video? Wow... and I bet every investor and employee is going to watch every minute.

sorry... don't mean to be rude here or anything... I am just curious what is on a 5 hour business plan video. You must have been going nuts after doing that editing job.

Thanks also for sharing the results of your work and how you got there. I do a lot of long-form editing myself in Vegas and I get a lot of comments from other professionals at how fast I can turn out long-form work. Vegas rocks!
RexA wrote on 2/1/2004, 3:39 AM
Hmmm.

Think I have seen your forum ID around before. Could be wrong since I havent tried a search. Anyway, if I am correct, is this your first big project? And how much work have you done with Vegas prior to this major milestone?

None the less, please accept my serious congradulations for a major job well done. You far exceed anything I have done thus far. Glad to hear your success story though. So far all my attepts have been positive too.

AZEdit wrote on 2/1/2004, 10:58 AM
I have posted here in the past- I don't usually use Vegas for Long format - but decided to give it a go...the entire project, from digitize to final MPG2 renders took 6 days. The main reason I posted this- I have heard many complaints on render times...I have no complaints here- yes the symphony is faster to go to tape with- but the work flow of Vegas is so easy I feel overall the project went faster than the $100K symphony- not bad for the small price tag of Vegas!

I agree- 5 hours is way tooo long- and I did go crazy with all the financial info- but the client was very direct- I want everything on this DVD set! We have 9 speakers talking specifics...each one is a menu item on the DVD- so at worst you watch a 30 to 40 minute presentation and choose what you want to view...it could be worse! Hey...I did not write or concept this- just executed the plan...
In conclusion- Vegas is a great Long format, software driven system that can easily get the job done!

Thanks,
Mike
kevgl wrote on 2/1/2004, 8:49 PM
Yeah - I've just finished a similar corporate project. 2 days of speakers making sales presentations. 2 cameras to sync together and Powerpoint pres's to integrate in as well. 18 hours of MiniDV. End result was 6 hours 40 mins. I'd hate to watch it all in one go :-)

I think the client intends for each presenter to check out their own performance and maybe one or two other segments pertinent to their area. (Each presentation ran for around 15-20 minutes).

Was my first Vegas job. Took a couple of months part time (they weren't in a hurry so I just worked on it at weekends). Would have taken a lot longer in Premiere. The ability to edit the timeline ahead of the playing cursor was awesome. Almost like cutting live cameras.

Cheers
Liam_Vegas wrote on 2/1/2004, 8:51 PM
Hey.. whatever pays the bills... if the client wants 5 hours.. that's what they get. No problem.
Tom Pauncz wrote on 2/2/2004, 5:34 AM
Could you post a short sample of your major milestone?
Thanks,
Tom
the_learninator wrote on 2/2/2004, 8:10 AM
let me ask you this. how many dvds did it take? or did you put it on dvd's at all?

I have 3 hours worth of video and the standard 4.7GB DVD disc can only hold about 2 hours worth of video in the defualt pixel format. Is there anyone who sells high capacity DVDs like 7GB. I noticed that all the professional movie DVDs are around 7GB.
AZEdit wrote on 2/2/2004, 4:22 PM
"Is there anyone who sells high capacity DVDs like 7GB. I noticed that all the professional movie DVDs are around 7GB."....That would be a DVD 9... a single sided dual layered DVD. These hold 7.95 gigs of space. There is also a DVD 10... a dual sided DVD5- these hold about 8.75 gigs. There is also a DVD 14- a dual sided, dual layered DVD that holds about 15.9 gigs.

Currently you cannot "Duplicate" a DVD 9 from your workstation. However...technology has advanced (Blu-ray) where we may see write- once DVD9 on the market by the end of this year! Estimated pricing has hinted at 1.2 to 3 times the cost to purchase a single disc. From what I understand- the current player can be modified by a firmware upgrade to record to these discs....we shall see

To answer your question- we wanted a good quality DVD so we ended up with a 3 DVD set
AZEdit wrote on 2/2/2004, 4:29 PM
"Could you post a short sample of your major milestone?"...
Tom...I could post a small section (maybe the open) but the rest is not something to show! It's boring...it's corporate info!!! The open is kinda flashy- all Vegas, all photoshop- all from stills....
The main reason for the post was to talk about a software driven edit system-Vegas...being used for long format. It worked like a charm! I really wanted this to work- I really hate renting an Avid Symphony for $1400 a week to do this work- when I can put that rental fee in my pocket!!
Mike
Tom Pauncz wrote on 2/2/2004, 9:31 PM
Hey Mike,

Understood ...

The reason I asked for a short sample is that I, too, am doing 'corporate' stuff for bread and butter and was just curious what someone else was doing.

If you have broadband, could you privately email me an extract. Would really appreciate seeing someone else's work - pauncz at attglobal dot net.

Cheers,
Tom