Grazie, that link said "invalid" when I followed it. Anyway why do you need a new DV camera? Or are you thinking that the GL3 will be HDV? And 24P?

The link works for me? Copy and Paste? No . .. what can I say?

"Anyway why do you need a new DV camera? " Need? . . I'd like to native 16:9 and if this was "bundled" with . . . "Or are you thinking that the GL3 will be HDV?" . .then this would be a really exciting development for canon in terms if it looking after MY-end of the market.

"And 24P? " My existing XM2 does a digital "version" of 24p. Having this as another option would be kinda neat.

PLUS I can only "feel" that Vegas will only/mostly progress along the HD route. After investing much time=money with this platform I'd like to stay with the "shimmering" wave of Vegas. It is sexy, slick and I can only think that the times in front of HD shooters/editors, within Vegas, are only going to get better. Can the same be posited for SD? Will Sony develop Vegas along SD lines? Are there HD-centric scripts being created as we speak? What "other" HD-centric goodies gonna be breaking loose from the Madison Ranch? Yeah?

Chicken and Egg . .C 'n E . . C 'n E . . was it ever thus.

Grazie

Serena go to DVinfo.net and go to the AREA 51 . .yes I know . .. and click on the "GL3 part 2" thread. That'll get you to today's post WITH the picture on page 2 . .

Grazie

The picture shows the japanese model of the GL2 (hence the gray color). Somebody obviously messed with the LCD and changed from 4:3 to 16:9. Everything else seems pretty much like GL2 to me so I guess it's just a joke.

Agree with you Grazie about HD (guess that goes without needing the telling, since I've never owned a DV camera). You can buy an Z1 now for the price you would have paid new for your XM2 and when the next models come out the prices of current HDV models will drop. A friend who makes music DVDs and corporate videos has recently replaced his XM2 with a Z1 because he had to have 16:9 for a significant project. It was touch and go for a while because he was going to push on with the XM2 until I gave him a list of reasons for upgrading (one of those being the diminishing resale value of the XM2). Glad to say, he's delighted with the Z1.

Serena? What can I say . . . well one or two things, actually (Lol!!) . . . but you knew that I would?

OK:

* Local/London new Sony Z1 = £3699.00

* Refurbed Canon-Shop XL2 = £1,900.00

* I have existing Canon stuff to use

* Presently there is a massive price/budget jump from the XM2 to the ONLY Canon HD offering. This makes me remain reflective and thoughtful as to just what Canon will produce for my end of the camera buying market. And this too I find seductive!! Just what will be coming?

I don't make music DVDs, and I guess that's a truly lucrative income? I'm glad your friend has made a purchasing decision with which he feels comfortable. Good. When the same holds true for me I'll do the same - but I kinda guess you knew that - Serena?

As to the resale value of my XM2s, they owe me nothing. Anyway, on the 2nd hand market I could look forward to only achieving something like 50% of their "new" value OR the equivalent of a mid-range pro tripod! And I got one of them anyway.

I guess, Serena, "the touch and go" period is panning out longer for me than for your chum. I have not had the " . . he had to have 16:9 for a significant project" moment, yet. Mind you if I did I might have "hired" a 16:9 to do it?

The delivery mechanisms by my clients of my work is not "HD-there", yet. Another thing I've learnt from those who post here, and further afield, that there are those that do/have invested in HD and are often down converting to SD to deliver their work for their clients to use it - have you heard of them?

My work consists of "canny" interviews; lively "real" feel street-type almost ENG work; typography and FXs; evocative music and a narrative-drive edit technique I've developed that gets my clients excited. I'm not convinced that my particular approach to videography requires or would even benefit from HD. I've also reflected on the value of a HD captured library "argument". Still can't see how this would benefit me? When I'm needing/pressured/forced to go HD and real true 16:9, I'll invest. Has that time come for me? - No. Will that time come for me? Yes. When will that be? Serena? You tell me?

Plus, I think there are technologies that are gonna come that will deliver MORE features for LESS money. Was it ever thus. My present kit still has some life left in it - and that life just may be long enough to continue when used in conjunction with the actual Vegas-Edit I employ. But that's me spending time on creating narrative out of "found" footage/gathered I've captured. Oh yeah, I really like doing that!

When you say you have never owned a DV camera, what do you mean? If I had come to this craft now in 2006, amongst all the "new"="affordable" technology of HD, I would have been investing in HD - like a bullet. But I didn't. I started in 2003. And I'm here, with what I got now.

Look, I've seen HD. I've used HD cameras - it is a phenomenal technology. I've edit some HD footage. It looks remarkable. For me, switching to HD might just, personally, eventually, come down to an ego/envy/hormone thing. Yeah, I am a male and led by my hormones - LOL!!!

However, there is another, undertow that just sometimes surfaces from the depths, and that is this: Not making a decision to switch away from SD to HD somehow makes me a lesser videographer, than those that have made that decision - and this is due to a "perceived" Luddite position I'm presently taking not to convert. And of course, nobody here is saying this. Of course not. That would be unthinkable - yes?

But I reeeeally would like native 16:9!!!! C'mon Mr Canon?

Serena, thanks for the reply,

Best regards,

Grazie

Gee Grazie! Now you see why I was surprised that you seemed to be oggling a new camera. It seemed to me that your XM2 was serving your present needs and doing that rather successfully.