Lack of a universal Titling Engine.

seetharamaiah-velicheti wrote on 4/23/2025, 11:02 AM

Why Vegas Pro is not incorporating universal fonts (like Indian Text & Titling) like Adobe Premiere:

Great question — and it's something that’s bugged a lot of international users of VEGAS Pro over the years.

💡 The core issue: Lack of robust Unicode and OpenType support in VEGAS Pro

VEGAS Pro (especially versions like 18) still struggles with full support for:

Complex scripts (like Devanagari, Tamil, Arabic, etc.)

Right-to-left (RTL) languages

Ligatures and contextual shaping in fonts (important for Indian languages)

Adobe Premiere, on the other hand, has had better native support for Unicode and international font rendering, largely because it's part of Adobe’s broader ecosystem that supports global typography via technologies like:

Adobe World-Ready Composer

OpenType feature support

Adobe Fonts with language-specific shaping engines

🧱 Why VEGAS Pro lags behind:

Legacy Codebase
VEGAS Pro is built on a relatively old architecture that hasn’t fully modernized its text engine — it often relies on system-level font rendering rather than an advanced, built-in shaping engine.

Focus on Western markets
Historically, VEGAS has focused on Western users where Latin-based scripts dominate, so internationalization hasn’t been a top priority.

Lack of a universal titling engine
Unlike Adobe, which integrates After Effects and a powerful text engine across tools, VEGAS still uses a simpler, somewhat outdated titler (e.g., "VEGAS Titles & Text" or "ProType Titler") that doesn't fully support complex script rendering.

🔄 Workarounds (for now):

Create titles externally in software like:

Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator (with proper fonts)

Microsoft PowerPoint (yes, really – it supports complex scripts well!)

Affinity Designer or similar

Export as transparent PNG or video

Import into VEGAS as an overlay

Some users also use Boris FX Title Studio or NewBlue Titler Pro plugins, which offer better font handling. THIS INCURS AVOIDABLE EXPENDITURE BY A VEGAS USER FOR THE FAILURE AND LAZINESS OF THE VEGAS CREATORS.

Comments

VEGASDerek wrote on 4/23/2025, 8:40 PM

...LAZINESS OF THE VEGAS CREATORS

Boy, that's a really demoralizing (and pretty uninformed) assessment of our small and extremely overworked team.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 4/23/2025, 8:55 PM

@seetharamaiah-velicheti Calling the Vegas development team failures and lazy is truly insulting of you, because they are quite the opposite... If you are having issues and frustrated, no problem in making it known... But anymore insulting posts like these from you going forward, will not be tolerated.

The Vegas developers are fully aware that there is an extremely great need for a more robust, modern and versatile titling feature, and eventually will be working on one as soon as they can, they just currently have their hands full in refining more critical issues at the moment, particularly the Video Engine.... The Titles and Text feature however may still get some minor enhancements in the future.

EricLNZ wrote on 4/23/2025, 9:00 PM

I suspect "laziness" is possibly a Google, or similar, translate, and not really intended in the way us English speakers interpret it.

But anyway the Vegas team have frequently acknowledged that titling is overdue for an overhaul. Hopefully with Magix under new ownership/management resources may be made available to achieve this.

FayFen wrote on 4/24/2025, 1:24 AM

no single tool can do the full artwork

Reyfox wrote on 4/24/2025, 7:19 AM

Yes, several foreign language speaking people have expressed the desire to be able to use their native fonts in Vegas. Also the ability to go right to left in typing.

While someone would have to use a third party app to do this and incorporate it into Vegas as a workaround solution, this topic has been brought up before, along with the explanation of how and why they are not immediately addressed by the Vegas programming team.

Mentioning Adobe as an example isn't quite fair. Do you know what the net income of Adobe is compared to any other software? If Adobe (with it's pay forever subscription) works for you, use it. And while "Western" languages get the "nod" right now is because that is where the greatest income comes from.

We all know the limitations of Vegas text editing. And if you spent time reading the "Feature Requests", you will see posts on requesting a new text editor is quite often posted, along with responses by the Vegas developers.

Take some time to read to see if the topic you are posting about hasn't already been talked about ad nauseam. Yes, this affects you personally along with others. But in the meantime so it takes an extra step or two to get what you want and import it into Vegas, it is not the end of the world.

Sassylola wrote on 4/24/2025, 11:42 AM

assessment of our small and extremely overworked team.

I thought Magix increased the size of the team working on Vegas Pro?

Did they cut the team again?

VEGASDerek wrote on 4/24/2025, 12:27 PM

A lot has changed in the last 15 months.

paul-marshall wrote on 4/25/2025, 3:35 AM

I'm fairly happy with Vegas Titles & Text. Compared to other titles such as NB Titler Pro7 it's quick and easy for the majority of basic captions, and I use it a lot. It has IMFO two weaknesses - it doesnt preview fonts so I have to try them out in another program, and rendering is slow. I do hope any future replacement will have a 'quick and easy' mode.

Reyfox wrote on 4/25/2025, 7:44 AM

I too am content (not overly thrilled) with Vegas titles. They work and are right there. But I also have NBFX Titler Pro 7, which I also use. I would love for the performance on the timeline during playback, for the animated titles to be smooth. They aren't.