Lag when editing a vertical or 4k clip

petko wrote on 8/11/2024, 10:51 AM

Hello!

I have a Vegas 21 Build 315 and when I try to edit a vertical video (HD quality) from my Panasonic GH6, video preview lags to the point where I'm unable to edit, But editing the same type clips that are horizontal works normally. (same setting, file format, resolution, coder). Only difference between clips is that one is horizontal and other is vertical.
I also have the same unusable lag while trying to edit a 4k clip.

I run Windows 11, i9-10900K, 48gb Ram, RTX 3070, and all files are on m2 SSD drive. I don't see why this spec should struggle.

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gorGaram wrote on 8/11/2024, 10:56 AM

MediaInfo, please.
Or a link to a file sharing site where can download the source code.

Last changed by gorGaram on 8/11/2024, 10:58 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

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Reyfox wrote on 8/11/2024, 11:10 AM

Also, what are your settings? Playback Preview?

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petko wrote on 8/11/2024, 11:13 AM

Here are the files!
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VUr2o-u2LlU3VWhwKYj9AQBaE3pYNaSP?usp=sharing

petko wrote on 8/11/2024, 11:14 AM

Also, what are your settings? Playback Preview?

Which settings exactly? Playback is set to: Preview (Half)

gorGaram wrote on 8/11/2024, 11:59 AM

Vegas 22:
vertical HD - OK, 4k - OK

Preview (Half)

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

VideoCard: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16Gb

Memory: 64Gb

OS: Windows 10 (1809)

Drive C: (SSD-500Gb) - ONLY system

Drive D: (HDD 4Tb) - ProrgamFiles and Temp
Drive E: (HDD 4Tb) - Work drive

Vegas Pro: 20.411, 21.315, 22.93

Chief24 wrote on 8/11/2024, 1:26 PM

VEGAS Pro 21 (315):

4K - O.K.; Horizontal HD - O.K.; Vertical HD - O.K.

Best (Auto)

PC specs in signature. Imported into VEGAS from PCI-e SSD, then to timeline. All showed at 50p. Horizontal and Vertical playback at UHD, due to project using 4K setting.

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Gid wrote on 8/11/2024, 1:56 PM

@petko Yep same here, they play perfectly Best (Full), I can do pretty much anything I want with them,

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UltraVista wrote on 8/11/2024, 8:48 PM

I don't see your problem or laggy performance until I add more files to the timeline, the delay is caused by building audio peaks, it is the same in VP22b93. Not sure if this is a new bug or it was always like that, strange thing is building peaks uses only a tiny amount of resources . It's not directly related to your problem though

First playback is with only your file on timeline, 2nd playback is with multiple other files and waveform peaks being build in background. I tried the same on another editor and playback of your file is identical in both situations indicating an efficiency problem with waveform peak building

Gid wrote on 8/11/2024, 10:38 PM

@UltraVista Different PC's I guess because as I wrote 'I can do pretty much anything I want with them',. Can you add your system specs to your Signature? I just added multiple UHD clips, multiple versions of the OP's files 4k & the 9:16 one, an audio file + effects. The final AI Style transfer fx that I added to an Adjustment track slowed the playback a bit but I saw no noticeable 'lag' @ Best (Full)

This is just a fraction of 15min I recorded of me playing with it continuously loop playing it & adjusting.

Last changed by Gid on 8/11/2024, 10:41 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

Vegas Pro 21
Vegas Pro/Post 19
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
NewBlue TotalFX
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, & an Acer 24" monitor.

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 5G & a GoPro11

I've been a Joiner/Carpenter for 40yrs, apprentice trained time served, I don't have an apprentice of my own so to share my knowledge I put videos on YouTube.

YouTube videos - https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

Lots of work photos on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/gid.joiner/photos_albums

UltraVista wrote on 8/12/2024, 3:57 AM

@Gid It turned out to be an age old problem, building audio peaks on a hard drive instead of SSD. I saw 100% utilisation. CPU and GPU were doing next to nothing. I don't know if it's fair to call it a bug, other Video editors don't have the same problems with HDD's it's easy enough to move the file to SSD, and some would be shocked at the very notion of editing from a HDD.

petko wrote on 8/13/2024, 2:38 AM

So, I'm not surprised that the clips work fine for others. My question is why it lags for me and what can I do to fix it D: