Line space size in a ProType text block

ScorpioProd wrote on 10/2/2008, 10:53 PM
One thing I haven't found in ProType is a way to adjust the space of a BLANK line between text. It seems like the blank line is always sized based on the largest text in the block, and there's no way to make the space smaller.

In the old text program, you could select the blank line and make it any size you wanted by changing the font size for it.

Is there a way to do this inside a text block in ProType?

Thanks.

Comments

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 10/3/2008, 1:46 AM
can't you just make it a space and it work?

I can't remember off the top of my head though.

Dave
Rory Cooper wrote on 10/3/2008, 2:06 AM
hghlight the space and kern 'custom kerning' the same as kerning neg space in type

for line space between lines set your y offset
click on the line in line mode
ScorpioProd wrote on 11/2/2008, 10:51 PM
I tried the suggestions, but none of them worked for adjusting the height of a blank line INSIDE a text block, so I guess it's a bug I'll just have to work around.

There apparently is no way to adjust the height of a single blank line inside of a text block.
Grazie wrote on 11/2/2008, 11:49 PM
There apparently is no way to adjust the height of a single blank line inside of a text block.

It would appear so.

I applied a line of text, hit enter at the end of the text and got an "invisible line space. Nothing new there. I could even add further empty lines and even at the the 3rd line enter some text. I even adjusted this seen and visible text height using the Text > Font Size slider. Using this information, I then attempted to adjust the "empty" line in the way I would have expected to be able to do. I got the same result as you.

However, and thinking this through a bit further, and as a "work-around", I was forced to enter some dummy text, set this text to:

Style > Style > Fill Colour > Alpha 0.00

. . and, of course, that did it. I was the able to adjust this line height, albeit it having "invisible" text in it. Not the perfect solution, I'd be having "unseen" text potentially tripping me up further along in my editing, but a work-around.

It would therefore appear that PTT NEEDS some actual "text" on a line for that line to be "recognised" for adjustment.

I shall be taking this up with SONY later today and see what comes of it.

To me it is obvious this is NOT being treated the same way that you/I/others are expecting a line height to be made adjustable, in the way you/I/others have grown used to do under WINDOWS and WORD, and so on.

Now THAT is interesting?

If somebody has a more "elegant" and "meant" way of doing this then I am all ears, and willing to learn.

Grazie
Rory Cooper wrote on 11/3/2008, 12:10 AM
You can

Type in your text block the y axis effects the whole block go to line mode
In line mode it will affect the y axis for the line
And so forth for word and character

Like any app there is a pattern of thinking once that pattern gels then you can get creative
So I am trying to work with PTT to that level its not easy
I end up going back to the apps that have gelled because of time restraints

But you can clearly see the potential for PTT
Grazie wrote on 11/3/2008, 12:25 AM
OK, try "Line Margin". This WILL change the empty Line Height. Does this mean that line "Height" is called "Margin" in PTT?

To adjust the empty line go to the beginning of the NEXT line and adjust the Line Margin. This WILL adjust the previous line - in this case the "empty line".

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 11/3/2008, 12:29 AM
When I asked the question about what this is called, it is ALSO because I can not access my Online Help Searches for PTT, nor for VegasP8 - it crashes.

xfx, yes, much potential, but guidance is either slim or in my case, crashing!

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 11/3/2008, 12:46 AM
OK, well I manually searched the PTT Online Help and there it is:

Contents > Working with the ProType Titler > Editing Text Properties > What do you want to learn more about? (

. .and what I discovered is I CAN adjust empty lines this way too.

Grazie
ScorpioProd wrote on 11/6/2008, 1:54 PM
Yup, thanks, line margin is the trick. :)