I spent the past half-hour searching these forums for ideas for the best workflow for handling a long project with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of individual clips. My particular project consists of four tapes of volleyball matches. I want to produce a five minute music video highlight "reel." The tapes each contain the slightly edited matches. Since they were previously rendered, they now contain a single continuous timecode, and no markers, regions, or events.
I put all the tapes on the timeline (almost four hours), and then scrubbed to find "highlight" action. I created short events from each highlight, and deleted everything else. I was left with a timeline with many hundred of individual events from the original four separate (very large) AVI files.
I now need to classify these clips so that I can arrange and trim them to fit my selected music. This is where I need to develop a better workflow.
The good people in this forum seem to have developed two general ways to deal with this:
1. Create tracks for each "class" of events, and drag the events to each track. In essence, this uses tracks as "bins." [We can't use Vegas' bins because they only let us organize by "media" (i.e., files), not by events, regions, or markers within files.]
2. Put markers into your project, and then render the resulting file, making sure to check "Save project markers in media file" in the Vegas Render As dialog box. The resulting regions can be viewed in Vegas' "Explorer View," and can be put directly on the timeline.
The second approach seemed like it would help me organize and name my clips much faster than the first approach (moving things between dozens of tracks seemed like a lot of "mousing around," and scrolling between all the tracks seemed awkward).
To speed things up, I adapted jetdv's AddMarkerstoEvents script to instead create regions for each event. I have posted this in the script forum (AddRegionsToEvents).
So here's my workflow. If anyone has any suggestions of how to make this even better, please chime in, 'cause this is still going to take a long time:
1. Cut the raw footage on the timeline, leaving just the highlights. Each highlight is now an individual event.
2. Run the AddRegionsToEvents script to create a region for each event.
3. Click on View -> Edit Details.
4. In the Edit Details dialog box, set the Show drop down box to Regions.
5. Enter a region name for each region. Make sure the names entered can easily be sorted alphabetically, such as "Spike 01," "Spike 02," and "Dig 01," and "Dig 02" (this is volleyball ...)
6. Render the project to a new DV AVI file, making sure to check "Save project markers in media file" in the Vegas Render As dialog box.
7. Start a new project.
8. In Vegas' "Explorer View" make sure that View -> Region View is enabled, so you can see the regions in the AVI file just rendered.
9. In Vegas' "Explorer View," click on the file just rendered. In the Region View pane, you can now see each sub-clip (i.e., each event from original project). You can preview just that clip by clicking on the name, and you can insert just that clip on the timeline.
Two things that still make this workflow less than optimal, both of which Sony could improve in the next release:
1. When entering the names in step 5 above, the preview windows does not show the video for that region/event/clip, nor does that segment get highlighted. This is not consistent with what happens in Sound Forge when you select a region from the region list (it highlights the region). This is one of the biggest flaws in this approach because there is no way to easily know which event an entry in the Edit Details box is referring to. I'm going to look into writing a script to handle this as soon as I get finished with this post. What is really needed is an interface that has the speed of spreadsheet entry combined with a link to the preview so you can see what is being named.
2. There is no way to "Tag" an event in the Edit Details box. Instead, I have to type everything. I can use Copy/Paste to speed things up a bit, but what I really want to be able do is tag an event with the name of a player, or the type of play. This is similar to what is done by photo album software to organize photos (see Adobe Photoshop Album).
Better still would be the ability to tag each clip with more than one attribute, so I could sort, select, and then preview, based on more than one criteria.
I put all the tapes on the timeline (almost four hours), and then scrubbed to find "highlight" action. I created short events from each highlight, and deleted everything else. I was left with a timeline with many hundred of individual events from the original four separate (very large) AVI files.
I now need to classify these clips so that I can arrange and trim them to fit my selected music. This is where I need to develop a better workflow.
The good people in this forum seem to have developed two general ways to deal with this:
1. Create tracks for each "class" of events, and drag the events to each track. In essence, this uses tracks as "bins." [We can't use Vegas' bins because they only let us organize by "media" (i.e., files), not by events, regions, or markers within files.]
2. Put markers into your project, and then render the resulting file, making sure to check "Save project markers in media file" in the Vegas Render As dialog box. The resulting regions can be viewed in Vegas' "Explorer View," and can be put directly on the timeline.
The second approach seemed like it would help me organize and name my clips much faster than the first approach (moving things between dozens of tracks seemed like a lot of "mousing around," and scrolling between all the tracks seemed awkward).
To speed things up, I adapted jetdv's AddMarkerstoEvents script to instead create regions for each event. I have posted this in the script forum (AddRegionsToEvents).
So here's my workflow. If anyone has any suggestions of how to make this even better, please chime in, 'cause this is still going to take a long time:
1. Cut the raw footage on the timeline, leaving just the highlights. Each highlight is now an individual event.
2. Run the AddRegionsToEvents script to create a region for each event.
3. Click on View -> Edit Details.
4. In the Edit Details dialog box, set the Show drop down box to Regions.
5. Enter a region name for each region. Make sure the names entered can easily be sorted alphabetically, such as "Spike 01," "Spike 02," and "Dig 01," and "Dig 02" (this is volleyball ...)
6. Render the project to a new DV AVI file, making sure to check "Save project markers in media file" in the Vegas Render As dialog box.
7. Start a new project.
8. In Vegas' "Explorer View" make sure that View -> Region View is enabled, so you can see the regions in the AVI file just rendered.
9. In Vegas' "Explorer View," click on the file just rendered. In the Region View pane, you can now see each sub-clip (i.e., each event from original project). You can preview just that clip by clicking on the name, and you can insert just that clip on the timeline.
Two things that still make this workflow less than optimal, both of which Sony could improve in the next release:
1. When entering the names in step 5 above, the preview windows does not show the video for that region/event/clip, nor does that segment get highlighted. This is not consistent with what happens in Sound Forge when you select a region from the region list (it highlights the region). This is one of the biggest flaws in this approach because there is no way to easily know which event an entry in the Edit Details box is referring to. I'm going to look into writing a script to handle this as soon as I get finished with this post. What is really needed is an interface that has the speed of spreadsheet entry combined with a link to the preview so you can see what is being named.
2. There is no way to "Tag" an event in the Edit Details box. Instead, I have to type everything. I can use Copy/Paste to speed things up a bit, but what I really want to be able do is tag an event with the name of a player, or the type of play. This is similar to what is done by photo album software to organize photos (see Adobe Photoshop Album).
Better still would be the ability to tag each clip with more than one attribute, so I could sort, select, and then preview, based on more than one criteria.