Loopoopoopoopoop & crash in playback

Kalvos wrote on 7/7/2002, 7:05 PM
Hi all,

I'm back with yet another question, after finishing the score and re-editing the 50-minute country store documentary video to include it. (OT, but anyone who wants to hear to major cuts can find them at http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/cat-large.html and move toward the bottom of the page for the music to "Stores".)

A full rendering has been impossible. Without the music, I could get through a render without crashing, but with the music track, I've had to do 50 one-minute sections and paste them together with TMPGEnc. (It doesn't matter whether I render to MPEG2 or AVI or anything else; and it isn't heat, as the CPU is just re-sinked with fresh paste, and has a temp of about 45-50C worst case while working.)

So, that pasted-up version works acceptably to get a finished copy. But now I'm trying to make a few dozen copies onto VHS.

I just can't get through it most of the time. At some point, playback will loop at a rate of about 4 per second, sometimes briefly (two to eight loops before resuming playback), and other times it will go into a permanent loop and crash to black screen with the audio continuing to loop forever until I punch the reset button.

There just seem to be too many variables for me with my lack of experience with video on the computer. I've tried playing on WMP 6.4 and 7.0 with the same results of loops and crashes (but in different places on different passes).

My system is a no-longer-overclocked :) Athlon running a 1.3 GHz and an IWill KK266 with latest BIOS, 512MB memory, two HD (40G and 60G, the second for the video stuff only), Matrox 450 dual-head, WinTV capture card, two Waveterminal 2496 sound cards, onboard C-Media sound, and Linksys network card. I'm running Win98SE with all updates, DirectX 8.1, and the latest VideoFactory. When playing back video, all background tasks are turned off.

I have the Matrox set up so I can zoom into the WMP rectangle and output the second head to VHS. (I *know* using the Matrox to VHS is a crude setup, but there's just no budget for this.)

I hope this is enough info to start on these questions:
1. Is there a player that won't loopoopoopoop or crash?
2. What sort of problem could this be?
3. Any recommendations at all, aside from drinking a whole lot and giving up?

Many thanks,
Dennis

Dennis

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Comments

Chienworks wrote on 7/7/2002, 11:21 PM
What is the format of the files you are using for the music track? Is it MP3 by any chance? VideoFactory has some problems with using MP3 files. Try converting them to .wav first, then adding them to your project.
Kalvos wrote on 7/8/2002, 7:45 AM
The audio files are all .wav

Dennis


Dennis

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AMD Radeon R9 280

Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.30 GHz
Installed RAM    16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

 

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BillyBoy wrote on 7/8/2002, 11:35 AM
I've had a couple audio problems I solved by a sort of circuitous method. Render your audio track seperately as wav, (there is a wav template) then load the wav file back on a new audio track. Why this works I have no idea. In other words if your video is 20 minutes, you'd create a single 20 minute audio wav from it. It seems somtimes the track itself gets corrupt. Either cut out the entire track contents and dropping on a new audio track or rendering the audio track out to wav, then dropping back on a new audio track cures it.
Kalvos wrote on 7/8/2002, 11:54 AM
Hi BB,

I don't think this is actually audio-related; that seems to be the symptom. The problem point varies from play to play, including in places where it uses a separately created .wav file (music only).

I started to suspect the VIA chipset issue, and spent some time this morning on the VIAhardware forum. I've just installed George Breese's "Via Latency" patch and am about to crank everything back up again.

An interesting side note on this: with the Windows system monitor running, any time I run the WMP, CPU usage jumps to 80% *after* I exit it. I'm not sure if this is a problem with the system monitor, or in some loaded module. I deleted every running task, right down to nothing but the system monitor, and that 80% is just stuck there until I reboot.

I mention this because the looping and crash issue happens at a point where CPU usage suddenly & unaccountably jumps to 100% during playback. If it recovers, the usage drops back to 80%. If it doesn't, it stays pegged and eventually the system crashes.

I'll report back if the VIA Latency patch solved this. Hah. Like I'm gonna have *that* good a Monday... :O

Dennis




Dennis

Vegas Pro Version 21.0 Build 108
Windows Pro 10.0 20H2 build 19042.1110
AMD Radeon R9 280

Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.30 GHz
Installed RAM    16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

 

maltedmedia.com/bathory