Lost Audio Files

Richard Jones wrote on 4/12/2016, 5:30 AM
Having just finished a Project and burnt the DVD I mistakenly deleted my Audio (Commentary) Files which had all been on their own separate Track. When I tried to recover them from the ReCycle Bin I was able to find all but 6 of these 39 files (which I was able to restore to Vegas for re-edit) but, despite using the various Search options I have been unable to find the missing 6..

I'm baffled and would welcome any help/advice. I'm using Vegas 12 Pro on Windows 7 64 bit.



rraud wrote on 4/12/2016, 9:41 AM
Were all of them Files (or events). 'Take' files could have been saved in a different folder?
If that's not the case, try a recovery program. I usually turn to [URL="https://www.piriform.com/recuva"]Piriform's Recuva[/URL]
Why did you not back-up the files on another drive or the cloud???
Richard Jones wrote on 4/12/2016, 10:40 AM
Thank you. Yes, each File was an audio Event, being the section of commentary I recorded as a Take that related to the relevant part of the video. I can't find the missing Files anywhere and I've searched the whole of the PC and its hard drives.

And, yes, I can't understand why I didn't make a back up! Before I try a recovery I wonder if I can recover these missing Files from the DVD itself either by capturing it into Vegas or using DVD Shrink?

Eagle Six wrote on 4/12/2016, 11:57 AM
Hi Richard,

Does this help http://www.videohelp.com/guides/how-to-edit-dvd-dvd-vr-dvd-vr-how-to-convert-dvds-back-to-mpg-for-reauthor-or-editing-id638#638

If you still have the VIDEO_TS folder it might be quicker to use a remuxer to extract the audio.

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Richard Jones wrote on 4/13/2016, 5:05 AM
That's really helpful, thank you, and I shall certainly have a look at this when I get back to my PC, probably sometime over the weekend.. I'm not sure which sub file within VIDEO_TS will hold the audio and whether I can copy this out. I'll let you know how I get on.

I'm still puzzled as to why some of the items sent to the ReCycle Bin should have disappeared completely whilet others sent at the same time and as part of the same batch can be seen and recovered.

Peter Riding wrote on 4/13/2016, 7:17 AM
I'm still puzzled as to why some of the items sent to the ReCycle Bin should have disappeared completely whilet others sent at the same time and as part of the same batch can be seen and recovered

I've noticed this can depend on where the original files are stored. If I delete from one of the internal drives or an external drive such as a 3tb USB3 Seagate the deleted files go via the recycle bin. But if I delete from a USB flash drive or an SD card in a reader the files disappear directly. Windows 10 64 bit. I'm not sure why and I have not investigated further as it hasn't mattered so far.

Other than that is Windows set up to index for search every possible location or just some locations?

Richard Jones wrote on 4/13/2016, 8:15 AM
The files were all stored in the same location and windows is set up for a complete search although I've also tried searching in separate locations --- strange, odd, peculiar etc :)

Richard Jones wrote on 4/17/2016, 6:38 AM
I eventually managed to more or less solve the problem by following Eagle Six's link and the link then given in that page to eventually download DVDLab. With that I was able to extract the ac3 file but, as this will not open n Vegas, I followed some advice given by John Meyer in 2007 and dropped this directly on the main menu of a new DVDA project, I immediately Prepared this project (see the Make DVD button) and then opened a new Vegas project before dropping the VTS_01_0.VOB file (from within the VIDEO_TS folder) on to the Timeline (I'm not sure but I fancy the audio extraction might also be achieved using DVD Decrypter).

I now have a complete sound track from the DVD and will have to copy all the video file from the Timeline of the original project on to this new project ready for rendering BUT I shall not be able to edit just the commentary as this has been muxed with the other sound tracks and cannot be isolated.. It also means that I have little room for for editing the video either because of the need to keep it in synch with the audio! Oh Well!!

One final point concerning DVDLab. The download comes on a 30 day trial basis but when I try to buy a registration no., the relevant pages are shown as being no longer available.. Does this mean that I shall be able to keep and use the programme beyond the trial period?.

Unfortunately this does not solve the problem of where the missing Track Files have gone and why some of these should show in the ReCycle Bin but not others.

Dexcon wrote on 4/17/2016, 7:36 AM
You've said that the commentary can't be isolated. If the commentary is dominant in the audio mix, Sony's SpectraLayers or iZotope's RX4 or 5 might ... might ... be able to isolate the commentary. Just in case you haven't already considered these programs and excluded them as a possible solution, they may be worth investigating to assist as a workaround in getting the commentary back.

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Richard Jones wrote on 4/17/2016, 8:48 AM
Thank you --- but they both offer quite an expensive solution to a single problem, one that I hope I may never face again.