Lots of suggestions for Vegas

a-a wrote on 9/2/2021, 10:47 PM

Vegas Improvements

I live in Korea and my English is not good, so I used Google Translate.

0. Greetings
I've been using Vegas Pro since I was 13.
When I was in middle school, I posted more than 100 courses on my personal blog.
Naver cafe video production, 10,000 subscribers game channel operation, etc.
Video editing is my passion.
And Vegas Pro is a partner that has grown with me for 14 years.

However, I have written this post because I have many regrets compared to my passion.
I've posted a similar suggestion before, but there are a lot of shortcomings
Organize, trim, and re-upload the material.

 

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1. Subtitle system
There has been no significant change in the 10 years since the Pro Type Titler was created.
It is far behind the current times, and there are many cases where subtitle work is done outside.
The closed captioning feature in Vegas needs to be completely reversed.


1-1. font scroll
It is very inconvenient to choose a font in Vegas.
There are too many fonts that are omitted when you scroll down with the mouse wheel
You need to make detailed adjustments by clicking + dragging the scroll bar.
Because this method is too tedious
I wish it could be fine-tuned with the mouse wheel.


1-2. view font
In Photoshop or Excel, the shape of the font is shown in advance.
However, in Vegas, the same font is applied, so it is difficult to choose the font you want.

 

1-3. Background of Prototype Titler
This feature, so-called 'responsive subtitles' in Korea, lacks a lot.
There is not enough space between the text and the background, and the upper space feels narrow.
I would like to be able to adjust the margins of text and background.

 

1-4. thin border
The borders of the Pro Type Titler are too thin.
There is a way to apply it multiple times, but it seems to consume too much resources.
I would like the max to be a little higher.

 


1-5. Bad UI Design
Even a simple font change requires multiple taps in Vegas.
This waste of travel routes leads to inefficient work.
Please change the UI like Photoshop or Vegas image.


1-6. falling interactivity
I use an addon called Vegasaur for the efficiency of my work.
Among them, I often use the function to load subtitle files such as txt and srt.
Works well with legacy text, title & text
It doesn't work at all with the Protype Titler.

It also requires conversion between each subtitle function.
It may be difficult to convert the prototype titler to legacy text.
I think it's possible to turn legacy text into prototypes.
Please help shorten the subtitle editing time.

 

1-7. color palette
I am a user who is more comfortable with the Photoshop UI-based color palette.
The color palette of the prototype is uncomfortable.

Also, I want to use HSV instead of RGB as the default setting, but I have the inconvenience of clicking every time.

I wish I could change the default in option -> preferences etc.


1-8. We demand a subtitle system with a new identity
Legacy text: simple and lightweight
Title & Text: Animation
Pro-Type Titler: Enhanced design and editable layer (?) function for multiple subtitles

I think there will be many errors when changing existing functions.
It would be good to release a new subtitle function that comprehensively solves the above problems.

 

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2. Preset function
This is a suggestion for the preset feature in Vegas.

 

2-1. Weak search function
It comes up to version 18 and has a favorites function, but there are many shortcomings.
You can collect frequently used functions in one place, but it is impossible to categorize them in detail.
I think this is an area where the likes and dislikes of users differ.

In version 17, if you enter a search term in Video FX, Transiton's search plug-ins,
Not only the FX name but also the preset values ​​saved by the user are searched.
This part has disadvantages such as taking the first search time when using many plug-ins.
By using this, you can categorize your favorites in a granular way.

Let me explain it a little bit easier.
I save presets in Video FX using the initials of my nickname, gg.
GG: Most frequently used functions (22)
GEFF : Various special effects (39 pieces)
GFT : Filters, color gradings (31)
GTR: Transitions (16)

If you set a keyword according to the purpose and save a preset for each effect,
By entering keywords in the search box, you could simply categorize the effects by use.
However, after version 18, only the name of the effect is included in the search target.
Preset names are excluded, which is rather inconvenient.

However, if you register more than 100 favorites,
It will be difficult to see at a glance and the meaning of classification will be lost.

Because of this problem, I don't feel the need to update from the current version 17.

 

There are many other people who use this method besides me.
I think it will be inconvenient for advanced users who have purchased a lot of plugins.

Problem: The current favorites function is integrated in one place, so there is a lack of categorization.
Solution 1: Solution 1: Make searchable as before in option -> preferences
Solution 2: Create Favorites 1,2,3,4,5, etc. so that you can categorize them.

 

2-2. Preset Sort
When you save presets in Video FX, they are sorted by name.
However, if you save presets in Media Generator, they will be sorted in order of registration.

Preset names are easy to recognize
When saving Red Text 1~5, Yellow Text 1~5
If you save a new Red 6 preset,
Red Text 1~5, Yellow Text 1~5, Red 6
They are stored in this array.

The more subtitle presets you create, the more cluttered it becomes and the harder it is to categorize.
I have the know-how to solve this problem
I delete all the presets at regular intervals and save them one by one in order.
But it is very cumbersome.

Please allow the selection of the saved preset sorting method or unify them in name order.

 

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3. sfk file
This is a problem I have constantly felt while using Vegas.
When you load a file with sound, an sfk file is created.
If you disable the sfk from being created, the wave shape will not be visible in Vegas.

I don't want the source folder to get messy.

It would be nice if it was created in the specified path rather than the source path.

 

 

4. Media Generator Shortcut keys
When you don't want to zoom in by scrolling
In case of event pan/crop or FX window, right-click + shortcut key to open it.
Media Generator doesn't have shortcuts so it takes time.
please add

 

Thanks for reading this long post
For items 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, 2-2, we hope that action will be taken quickly.

Comments

Dexcon wrote on 9/2/2021, 11:26 PM

@a-a  ... You are best advised to add the above to the long existing post regarding Vegas Pro feature requests:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-19-feature-requests--123432/?page=13#ca819038

... where it will more likely be noticed in the future by the developers.

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a-a wrote on 9/3/2021, 1:26 AM

@a-a

thank you. referenced a lot.

 

RogerS wrote on 9/3/2021, 1:55 AM

You have a lot of good ideas about a better titler. I hope the developers can create one good titler in the future that can do animation, use foreign fonts easily, let you preview typefaces in advance, and let you change the style of multiple subtitle events at once.

gary-rebholz wrote on 9/8/2021, 12:12 PM

@a-a, thank you for your thoughtful ideas. Here are some responses:

  1. Subtitle System: I'm sorry to say that the ProType titler feature has been deprecated. While I don't anticipate removing it from the application any time soon, we are not likely to make any improvements to it. There are strong technical reasons why we should not spend time on it. Creating a new titler is more likely, but that is something for the future and not likely to happen quickly given the scope of that task and other priorities. I know that's not what you want to hear, and again, I'm sorry.
  2. Preset Function
    1. We have improved this for the first VP19 update which is coming up. You will be able to search on your custom preset names. However, we will not (yet) filter out other presets that don't contain your custom search string. That becomes a more complicated issue and is something we have to discuss further before implementation
    2. We will investigate this
  3. SFK files: this is a complicated issue which we have discussed many times. In the end we always end up with the current solution being the best and safest way to handle these
  4. Media Generator Shortuct keys: If there is no room on the event to show the Media Generator button (as in your screenshot), that button gets moved to the top of the More menu. Click the More button and then choose it from the list. If the event is too small even to show the More button, then our options are very limited. There are not enough keyboard shortcuts available to assign one to every button that may disappear.
Former user wrote on 9/8/2021, 1:07 PM

@a-a You could make the sfk files HIDDEN from Windows options. That way you would not see them.

a-a wrote on 9/8/2021, 6:59 PM

@a-a, thank you for your thoughtful ideas. Here are some responses:

  1. Subtitle System: I'm sorry to say that the ProType titler feature has been deprecated. While I don't anticipate removing it from the application any time soon, we are not likely to make any improvements to it. There are strong technical reasons why we should not spend time on it. Creating a new titler is more likely, but that is something for the future and not likely to happen quickly given the scope of that task and other priorities. I know that's not what you want to hear, and again, I'm sorry.
  2. Preset Function
    1. We have improved this for the first VP19 update which is coming up. You will be able to search on your custom preset names. However, we will not (yet) filter out other presets that don't contain your custom search string. That becomes a more complicated issue and is something we have to discuss further before implementation
    2. We will investigate this
  3. SFK files: this is a complicated issue which we have discussed many times. In the end we always end up with the current solution being the best and safest way to handle these
  4. Media Generator Shortuct keys: If there is no room on the event to show the Media Generator button (as in your screenshot), that button gets moved to the top of the More menu. Click the More button and then choose it from the list. If the event is too small even to show the More button, then our options are very limited. There are not enough keyboard shortcuts available to assign one to every button that may disappear.

Thank you for your kind reply.
1. Subtitle system
I understand that this is a low priority and time consuming task.
However, subtitle work is heavily dependent on external programs.
This is one of the most inconvenient points for Korean YouTubers and editors.
Still, the fact that there is room for improvement someday sounds a bit hopeful.
I dream of the day when productivity and design capabilities increase and even optimize.

2-1. Preset function
We are looking forward to the VP 19 update.
Whether it's the old search method or numbering your favorites
I would be satisfied if I could categorize it in a more diverse way in any format.
Currently, one favorite is not enough.
It is necessary to classify at least 3 or 4 or more.

2-2. thank you.
I hope it will be reflected quickly.

3. SFK files
As expected, it is a sad fact.

4. Shortcut keys for Media Generator.
I sympathize with the lack of keyboard shortcuts to include all functions.
However, it would be nice if it was added even if it was disabled by default in the keyboard settings.
Currently, I am using a shortcut using the macro function of my gaming mouse.