Luma or Chroma Key very very slow

_litz wrote on 11/19/2023, 10:02 PM

Build 187 version 21

Tried NVidia and Intel CPUs, various processors, various computers.
Tried with and without GPU acceleration (on both Intel and NVidia)

The INSTANT that I turn on any kind of luma or chroma key, I get single digit render speeds at any resolution using Magix AVC or HEVC.

I'm baffled. There is seemingly nothing other than "it's vegas" that makes this go slow.

If I set up the same chroma in Premiere or Resolv on the same hardware, the render flies.

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RogerS wrote on 11/19/2023, 10:51 PM

What about using color corrector secondary to create the mask, is that any faster?

I don't see what is baffling- not all Fx are easy to process, and compositing multiple tracks is much more computationally intensive. Of course you'd keep GPU acceleration in in preferences/ video and if the Fx are CPU-limited you'd be better off with GPU encoding so the CPU isn't burdened with that, too.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD and 2TB Samsung 980 Pro cache drive, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

ASUS Zenbook Intel i9-13900H with Intel graphics iGPU with latest ASUS driver, NVIDIA 4060 (8GB) with latest studio driver, 48GB system ram, Windows 11 Home, 1TB Samsung SSD.

VEGAS Pro 21.208
VEGAS Pro 22.122

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark (works with VP 16+): https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark (works with VP 20+): https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Former user wrote on 11/20/2023, 3:51 AM

For me it's all Project size dependant, (There's multiple chromakeys on the green screens + Charcoal to create the edge effect (Glow from Track motion), & at the bottom there's an assortment of AVC, HEVC & MOV/ProRes, I see no slow down when rendering through the different formats.)

HD 1920 x 1080 renders quite fast & steady

UHD 3840 x 2160 slows down by about ½ but is still steady & acceptably fast enough.

 

_litz wrote on 11/20/2023, 11:42 AM

No, none of the above appear to apply. I'm using 21 with the brand new build 187.

It runs "normally" for about 10 seconds, then drops to a crawl, like it's run out of memory or exhausted a disk buffer.

This happens independent of PC, graphics card, or any settings you can think of (HEVC, GPU, etc).

It's just broken, and I cannot figure out what is wrong.

The instant I render without chroma, speeds are normal.

All it takes is literally a single element with chroma added -- only one track. And renders are single digit speed.

And like I said above, the same exact process (single track, single chroma) in Resolv or Premiere runs without issue.

_litz wrote on 11/20/2023, 12:06 PM

As a followup, might have found a solution by setting up my chromakey in 1 project, then loading that project directly into another project (so it in effect frameserves). That renders without delay or slowdown.

So the issue isn't the chroma itself, but the processing that happens while rendering.

And yes, I've tried multiple different rendering formats. Same result.

This is not, it goes without saying, the way it's supposed to work, nor is it the way it's worked in the past.

Former user wrote on 11/20/2023, 5:55 PM

I don't really see much of a difference, and no great change with CPU or GPU use, is your GPU or CPU maxing out with chromakey?