Magic Bullet Looks 5 / Suite 14.0.3 now work normally in VEGAS Pro 18.

lan-mLMC wrote on 11/19/2020, 2:30 PM

It will cause color glitch problem before 14.0.3 but now normally.

https://installer.maxon.net/installer/RG_installers/MBSuite_Win_Full.zip

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It is a very powerful color correction and film looks tool suite.

What's new? :

MAGIC BULLET LOOKS 5:

 

Magic Bullet Looks is our tool for cinematic looks and color correction. It is by far the easiest, most powerful way to make your video look great. With over 300 fully-customizable presets to get you started, an intuitive set of tools for creating your own color grade, and both input and output color handling, Magic Bullet looks fits right into any real-time color workflow.

Here’s what’s new:

Presets – With the Magic Bullet Looks plugin you can choose from over 100 brand-new Look presets, designed to match your favorite movies and TV shows. While presets are the fastest, simplest way to grade your footage, every one of the over 300 included presets is fully-customizable, and uses professional tools and powerful techniques to make your footage look amazing.

Color Handling – Looks 5 includes a wide range of new color input and output transforms ensuring consistency, quality and flexibility when color correcting and creating deliverables. With Color Handling at both the beginning and end of the Looks tool chain, Magic Bullet looks can fit into any color workflow.

Huenity is a powerful tool that makes it easy to simplify your color palette by customizing a range of hues. With a slick, intuitive UI that makes it simple to define the area you want to affect, Huenity makes it simple to bring together a range of colors.

Color Remap is a first of its kind — a color corrector that allows you to easily map any color to any other color. You can perfectly match client color palettes, conform your shot using a color chart, or explore infinite creative options. As you remap colors, you see your results in a 3D color cube. You can easily pin down colors you don’t want to change, making Color Remap the most powerful color tool we’ve ever built.

Channel Mixer is a powerful tool that can have a big impact on the color or your image. This tool makes it easy to feed the information from one color channel into the output of another color channel for things like creating high-quality black and white conversions, correcting color casts, and tinting and stylizing your footage.

LUT Browser – The brand-new LUT Browser provides a sleek workflow allowing for any number of Lookup Tables to be imported, previewed on a thumbnail of your footage, and applied with ease. Expand your library of looks indefinitely. Import LUT packages, dailies LUTs, or LUTs you created with Colorista (a new feature in Colorista V) and make them part of your everyday color workflow.

Looks Preset Search – The new Preset Search makes it simple and intuitive to find the Looks preset you need through the use of creative language and context. Search for presets using keywords such as movie titles, colors, moods and more. Respond fast to your client’s requests, discover different color palettes, become inspired, and craft the perfect look for your project.

Tangent Support – You’ve asked and now here it is. Turn your workstation into a professional grading suite with support for Tangent control surfaces for the Colorista, 4-Way Color, and other Looks tools.

 

Comments

RogerS wrote on 11/19/2020, 5:26 PM

Colorista 5 doesn't work with Vegas: https://www.redgiant.com/products/magic-bullet-colorista/#compatibility

Dexcon wrote on 11/19/2020, 6:27 PM

Magic Bullet Looks is terrific but it looks like it can no longer be purchased on its own - if you want to purchase MBL, you now have to buy the whole Magic Bullet Suite. The following is from Red Giant's Sales FAQs:

CAN I BUY INDIVIDUAL TOOLS INSTEAD OF SUITES OR SUBSCRIPTIONS?

Unfortunately no, we've discontinued the ability to purchase individual tools.

However you can still acquire any tool by purchasing a perpetual license of the suites they are a part of, or, if you'd prefer to purchase them for a month or on an annual basis, you can buy access to them through a Maxon One subscription, where everything we make can be used for a low price.

I couldn't see an upgrade path for those who already own an earlier version of MBL and want to upgrade MBL only, but there is an FAQ which states:

HOW DO I PURCHASE UPGRADES?

To enquire about upgrade options for your products, please contact our Sales team.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Grazie wrote on 11/19/2020, 10:10 PM

@Dexcon - Thanks.

So, no upgrade path for a single tool. No single tool purchase. No clear, upfront perpetual licence cost. No way to separate out a tool that’s not an OFX. I’m happy with MBL 4 and Plural Eyes. Breathe out..... and..... relax.

Grazie wrote on 11/19/2020, 10:28 PM

I’ve read “deeper” I can obtain a Perpetual or is that subscription licence, Red Suite for $999 which includes MBL5 and PE. I have received a 35% discount for a non-perpetual...... very confusing? I may contact MAXON Sales to get some elucidation.

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Grazie

PC 10 64-bit 64gb * Intel Core i9 10900X s2066 * EVGA RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra 10GB - Studio Driver 551.23 * 4x16G CorsVengLPX DDR4 2666C16 * Asus TUF X299 MK 2


Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

Grazie wrote on 11/19/2020, 10:32 PM

Actually, if more red giant suites support OFX, it will be nice.

@lan-mLMC - Please explain?

Grazie wrote on 11/19/2020, 10:43 PM

@lan-mLMC - Ah, righto! Thank you.

RogerS wrote on 11/19/2020, 11:13 PM

PluralEyes looks like it is still available standalone for $299: https://www.redgiant.com/products/pluraleyes/#pricing

lan-mLMC wrote on 11/26/2020, 7:37 PM

Magic Bullet Looks is terrific but it looks like it can no longer be purchased on its own - if you want to purchase MBL, you now have to buy the whole Magic Bullet Suite. The following is from Red Giant's Sales FAQs:

CAN I BUY INDIVIDUAL TOOLS INSTEAD OF SUITES OR SUBSCRIPTIONS?

Unfortunately no, we've discontinued the ability to purchase individual tools.

However you can still acquire any tool by purchasing a perpetual license of the suites they are a part of, or, if you'd prefer to purchase them for a month or on an annual basis, you can buy access to them through a Maxon One subscription, where everything we make can be used for a low price.

I couldn't see an upgrade path for those who already own an earlier version of MBL and want to upgrade MBL only, but there is an FAQ which states:

HOW DO I PURCHASE UPGRADES?

To enquire about upgrade options for your products, please contact our Sales team.


@Dexcon  From Red Giant : "Hi Sascha! There are certainly upgrade options - you should have received an email with more details. :) If you haven't please get in touch with our team via this form: https://www.redgiant.com/volume"

Dexcon wrote on 11/26/2020, 9:38 PM

Many thanks @lan-mLMC. I'm not sure whether or not I got the email. Such has been the influx of Black Friday emails recently that it has turned out to be more of a Delete Friday on Outlook.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Grazie wrote on 11/26/2020, 11:50 PM

@lan-mLMC - Yes, I investigated this last week. There aren’t any single, upgrade perpetual licences for MBL anymore. They are ALL subscription and highly expensive options too. RG have move towards MAXON who only offer “expensive” subscription opportunities. Now, why would they do that? Let me ponder for a nano second....

In my opinion, with so many opportunities to Colour Grade now out there, RG have decided to throw their lot in with the Subscription Model with a deal, £££ or $$$ or €€€ or ¥¥¥, that can squeeze the last few cost-to-reach overheads that MAXON could offer the existing User base. Well, this is one base-User that won’t be shifting his Base any time soon. However, I would, wiggle my BASE with an upgrade path for Magic Bullet Looks for a continuation for their perpetual licence.

@Dexcon - Please follow @lan-mLMC link and prove me wrong 😉.

Dexcon wrote on 11/27/2020, 12:30 AM

@Grazie  ... Re Maxon, yes, it only seems to have subscriptions either annual or by the month. I would never consider using this expensive subscription approach for just one plugin that I only occasionally use.

The RG quote and link that @lan-mLMC cited above goes to volume licensing options via Maxon. Perhaps RG meant for those interested in an upgrade of a single RG tool like MBL to use the Contact button towards the top of the page. Indeed, clicking on the "Sales team" link in their FAQs:

HOW DO I PURCHASE UPGRADES?

To enquire about upgrade options for your products, please contact our Sales team

... leads to the same Volume page but with the Contact window open.

As good a plugin as MBL is, I think on reflection that it's time to leave well-enough-alone and not pursue anything further with RG products, especially since BCC 2021 is now providing something similar in their new BCC+ release particularly the new + filters called Looks and Film Stocks.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Grazie wrote on 11/27/2020, 1:26 AM

@Dexcon MAGIC BULLET LOST!​​​​​​​ Finally, Red Giant has been swallowed by the Black Hole that is....

Dexcon wrote on 11/27/2020, 4:18 AM

@Grazie  ... I like your thinking ... I'll subscribe to that.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 11/27/2020, 4:25 AM

Yes, Red Giant has indeed now entered into this expensive dark world business model..... I for one will not be joining them into this new greedy realm!

Grazie wrote on 11/27/2020, 5:22 AM

To all

“A Red Giant star is a dying star in the last stages of stellar evolution.”

“A Black Hole” is a region of spacetime where gravity is so strong that nothing—no particles or even electromagnetic radiation such as light—can escape from it.”

Dexcon wrote on 11/27/2020, 5:27 AM

Exploring maxon.net 's website, I was unable to find any FAQs or T&Cs. Maybe the latter is only available if I had created an account - which I am not going to do. Therefore, I'll take the worst case scenario as likely being the situation if you were to enter an RG/Maxon subscription arrangement. Your access to your RG products will probably only be accessible while you have the subscription in place and accessibility to the product/s will end if you cease the subscription. Both BorisFX and FXHome are upfront on this issue (that access will not end), but RG/maxon.net are silent on this issue.

How long does the proverbial barge-pole have to be to keep away from RG nowadays - IMHO of course? It's rather sad I think.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Grazie wrote on 11/27/2020, 5:39 AM

@Dexcon - Thanks for that. When I can’t easily understand an “offer”, then I run away.

My recent upgrades and purchases have been the MAGICYUV 2.3 and the Black Friday Corel PSP 2021. Do I have buyers remorse on other s/w? None that I’d go Public with here 🤪.

Reyfox wrote on 11/27/2020, 5:57 AM

I am with you all on this. While I've used Looks in the past, the current model to get it, along with other products, at a subscription price that is to me, expensive, I've passed and moved on. With Continuum 2021, there are lot of Units that offer enough to give RG a real run for there "money". And at a cost much less and with perpetual license.

For Black Friday, upgraded to VP18 and bought HOS. Quite happy and no regrets!

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

Grazie wrote on 11/27/2020, 7:06 AM

Are we surprised that as BORIS does Cont’21, RG and MBLs have crossed over?

ZigoH wrote on 12/27/2020, 8:39 AM

Has anyone had problems with MB looks 5? i get wrong colours on the output, but only in Vegas.. in resolve it looks fine.

adis-a3097 wrote on 12/27/2020, 9:08 AM

Are you using GPU acceleration?