Main Concept vs Sony AVC renders in v11 and more

paul_w wrote on 10/18/2011, 5:58 PM
Hi guys,
Ok so with all this V11 stuff going on right now, i thought i would add to the growning number of threads apearing :)

Just got my self a Nvida GTX 570 today at a reasonable price. My older card 9600 GSO was not supported in v11. (Compute was 1.1).
So finally i now have GPU support, but at a cost.

So anyhoo, i am finding Main Concept AVC (mp4) MUCH faster rendering than Sony AVC. Making sure both have "use GPU" enabled and on the exact same project. Both are set to the same bitrates, output sizes etc.
Its way faster, like almost 2:1 . This is a complete turnaround from v10 where Sony AVC was always faster. Adding GPU support to MC has to be one of the best upgrade features of v11 for me. Love it.

On the other hand, the occasional crash, undetermined why at this time. And rendering options disserpearing from the list. Currently, my Sony AVC has gone! It may come back. And its not a Favorites issue either. It just went!

Lastly, this whole GPU thing is certainly better with than without, but i can still easily kill the preview frame rate simply by adding Magic Bullet to an event. Other FX do it too. So i am still hovering around the Preview Auto or Half area when using slower filters. Not THAT amazing really. But better.

Paul.

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TheRhino wrote on 10/18/2011, 6:51 PM
Paul,

Do you know how well your GPU helps when rendering the MainConcept MPEG-2 codec for both HD Blu-ray & NTSC DVD?

The Blu-ray is the Vegas 1920x1080x60i 25 Mbps video stream template and the DVD is the DVD NTSC template found under the MainConcept MPEG-2 choices...

Also, what CPU do you have as this will make a difference when making the comparison between your CPU and GPU...

BTW, I also have the 9600 GSO in two of my older workstations and just an AMD 4600 in my main rig...

Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

paul_w wrote on 10/18/2011, 7:02 PM
I cant say yet for sure about the MC MPEG2 performance with GPU. But it does not show support for GPU enhancement. Whereas the MC AVC codec does show this in its options.
So from that, i guess there will be no performance gain using MPEG2. But I will test that for sure. Maybe it gains in other ways, like the way v11 uses the GPU itself.
CPU here is i7 930 clocked to 3ghz.

The 9600 GSO's are great cards, but no good for Vegas GPU support :(

Paul.