making a blue ray DVD using reguular DVD burner?

animan109 wrote on 4/2/2010, 5:42 PM

I tried this unsuccessfully. I read somewhere online that you can make (using Vegas platinum 9.0b build 92) a blue ray quality (1920 by 1080) DVD using a regular DVD burner. You should be able to use the AVCHD codec and up to 24MB/S and get about 15 minutes of video playback time.
I am hesitant to buy a blue ray burner and media because of the cost. (one burn mistake on a blue ray is $10 but is 20 cents on a regular DVD!!) Does anyone know if this is possible with vegas and how to do it?

THANKS.

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david_f_knight wrote on 4/2/2010, 6:45 PM

[After you posted your question, you noticed this thread which discusses how to do what you want.]

I just want to clear up a few points here specific to your question:

AVCHD DVDs cannot have a bitrate greater than 18Mbps. Vegas Platinum 9 has a 16Mbps AVCHD render option, about 40 minutes of which can be stored on a single layer DVD.

Not all Blu-ray disc players can play AVCHD DVDs. In general, only Blu-ray disk players with the AVCHD logo can play them. Probably all Panasonic and Sony Blu-ray disc players are AVCHD DVD compatible (they jointly created the AVCHD specification); I don't know whether any other manufacturer of Blu-ray disc players makes AVCHD DVD compatible players.

knockatoone wrote on 4/14/2010, 8:25 AM

David -thanks for the ref to here
.I thought I was headed down the correct path to make a AVCHD -DVD but things are sure foggy now. I am editing an AVCHD video in Vegas Mov Studio 9 Plat Pro- (video from a Sony AVCHD Camcorder) I understand that with limited space a HD video on a DVD will be of much shorter length. Sony has been selling the whole idea of AVCHD on a DVD with play back on a BD player (at least a Sony BD player) BUT Can you really burn an AVCHD video on to a standard DVD using Vegas Movie Studio. I went away from Adobe PRE7 becasue ti would not burn an AVCHD DVD but claimed it would make a AVCHD movie - file .... I have invested a mint in the setup to do this and sure hope I will be successful ... CAN IT BE DONE :-(

david_f_knight wrote on 4/14/2010, 11:24 AM

It can be done, but not within Vegas Movie Studio Platinum (Pro Pack) 9. Follow the link within my previous post in this thread for the steps how to do it.

knockatoone wrote on 4/14/2010, 1:17 PM

Thanks again for the help - I jsut got mesage back from Sony tech support saying to burn AVCH on the a DVD I would need a Blu ray burner ???
To make suree Ii am not missing a simple asnwer to my situation - if we forget about AVCHD as an out put format - is there another "HD"out put format in Vegas that will do the job and be playable on some thing that will put it on my TV ??

david_f_knight wrote on 4/14/2010, 1:41 PM

You do not need a Blu-ray burner to create an AVCHD DVD. I provided all the steps required to make one in the link in my first post in this thread. That is the simple answer to your question. Many people don't understand it, and their opinions aren't relevant because they're wrong. There are a few ways to get HD onto HD TVs, and each requires specific hardware to do so. From what you've described, I have the impression that an AVCHD DVD is the only way that will work with the hardware you already have.

knockatoone wrote on 4/14/2010, 8:30 PM

Ddave,
Thanks - i have found your earlier post and am studying it and willl give it a try as soon as I am sure I understand it...K

KenJ62 wrote on 4/21/2010, 2:57 PM

I am a newbie to Vegas MS9 but here is what I have been able to do. I add HDV files to my timeline, edit, ADDING CHAPTER MARKERS as desired. Select Make Movie, select Burn to DVD, Blu-ray Disc or CD, select Blu-ray disc, then select the Sony AVC Video format. This gives me a Blu-ray 1440x108-60i, 15 Mbps video stream which is important for conventional media because it cannot reliably support much higher than this. Make sure there is a check mark for 'Insert chapter points at markers.' Insert DVD5 or DVD9 media and burn.

It made a great looking flawless high definition movie on conventional media that played in high definition perfectly on my Sony Blu-ray player.

As a bonus, even though you don't get authoring with menus, if you add chapter markers the Blu-ray player chapter buttons works just like it was authored! I even made a "poor man's menu" by adding a 10 second long first segment to my timeline with instructions and chapter directory on a pale blue background. This will work for AVCHD and Blu-ray but not standard definition DVD.

Since I wanted to author my AVCHD disks I was also on a hunt for "DVD Architect Studio 5" <grin>. As you may know VMS9 (at least Platinum is) is fully up to the job of producing high definition video but DAS 4.5 only supports standard definition. The only low cost solutions until recently have been the various free tools but on April 12th Nero 10 came out. Previously my Nero 8 had trouble accepting the AVCHD output from Vegas but the new Nero Vision Xtra accepted my AVCHD files in either .m2ts or .mp4 format. We now have a much lower cost way to get fully authored high definition DVDs!