Making square after zooming text, need help

formingus wrote on 7/22/2022, 1:25 PM

 

I want to zoom text and i was able to do pan and zoom. But after zoom, i need to draw square around the text (so square will start and continue until it makes full square) - Any idea how to do that ? Thanks in advance

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xberk wrote on 7/22/2022, 1:45 PM

I think ths can be done in Vegas if you understand using multiple video tracks to Composite, Track Motion, Video FX, Media generators,and Key framing.

Maybe someone can post a step by step solution. I'm just saying its possible.

 

 

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john_dennis wrote on 7/22/2022, 4:28 PM

@formingus

Do you mean something like this?

xberk wrote on 7/22/2022, 5:12 PM

@formingus

Do you mean something like this?

Nice job @john_dennis I think that's what the OP had in mind.

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john_dennis wrote on 7/22/2022, 5:19 PM

@xberk 

Thank you.

@formingus

I find that I can do parts of these tasks in Photoshop quicker and easier. This is Howie Duit.

It may be possible to use masking or some other method in Vegas Pro to do this, but I have a hammer sitting there all the time, so everything looks like a nail to me.

xberk wrote on 7/22/2022, 5:46 PM

Brilliant @john_dennis It's always a matter of understanding the tools you have. Hammer on!

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DMT3 wrote on 7/22/2022, 9:36 PM

A clock wipe to bring the outline on would look similar.

xberk wrote on 7/22/2022, 10:48 PM

@DMT3 I think that works .. but the wipe has a hitch in it's get-along. Doesn't look smooth.

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3POINT wrote on 7/22/2022, 11:46 PM

Can also be done directly in Vegas (even with rounded corners if you like) without external applications like photoshop:

 

john_dennis wrote on 7/23/2022, 2:22 AM

@3POINT

Thank you for showing a solution inside of Vegas Pro. I was able to duplicate your results using the Soft Contrast fX.

  • As you can see, this method brought my machine to its knees.
  • One loses transparency for the text background unless she uses a set of colors that can be keyed.

formingus wrote on 7/23/2022, 4:04 AM

@formingus

Do you mean something like this?

Yes, that's exactly what i need.

So, 1. Make PNG transparent square 2. Use Clock Wipe Default effects

It's a solution, but as you say does not run smoothly. Anyway thanks a lot!

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formingus wrote on 7/23/2022, 4:26 AM

Can also be done directly in Vegas (even with rounded corners if you like) without external applications like photoshop:

 

I did this but my square is not a line, it's full color. As a beginner is hard for me to understand. Thanks for replay

Will follow another tutorial with photoshop. Thanks

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3POINT wrote on 7/23/2022, 5:00 AM

Unfortunately Vegas doesn't have the tools on board to generate such graphics directly, always a workaround is needed. That's the reason that I use for such projects more frequently my other NLE Powerdirector, where generating such graphical objects is just peanuts. (small example: )

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formingus wrote on 7/23/2022, 6:15 AM

Unfortunately Vegas doesn't have the tools on board to generate such graphics directly, always a workaround is needed. That's the reason that I use for such projects more frequently my other NLE Powerdirector, where generating such graphical objects is just peanuts. (small example: )

You mean Cyberlink Power Director ?

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3POINT wrote on 7/23/2022, 6:37 AM

Indeed.

john_dennis wrote on 7/23/2022, 9:26 AM

@formingus

I'm not surprised you didn't follow my Photoshop method. Here is a demo customized for use of the Rectangle drawing tool. Once generated in Vegas Pro, I also moved all the Text work into a layered .PSD (which Vegas handles just fine).

xberk wrote on 7/23/2022, 11:32 AM

I now see how you could do this completely within Vegas Pro using Titler, Track Motion, VIdeo FX Border, and Clock Wipe transition. If I get the time, I'll show you how.

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xberk wrote on 7/23/2022, 9:26 PM

Ok. Here's my solution (step by step) completely within Vegas Pro. Learned some things here -- thanks everyone!

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3POINT wrote on 7/23/2022, 11:06 PM

@xberk your solution by deformation of the applied borderfx doesn't look nice. The line width should be equal for the whole square/rectangle.

Unfortunately the borderfx has a bug, existing already since GPU support has been introduced into Vegas. Disabling GPU support gives Borderfx the ability to border objects which doesn't have the project aspect ratio.

3POINT wrote on 7/24/2022, 12:52 AM

Difference between disabled GPU support and enabled GPU support with Vegas BorderFX:

You may try yourself with the veggie here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yykkpcidzent0av/Outline%20me.zip?dl=0

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john_dennis wrote on 7/24/2022, 4:16 PM

@formingus @xberk @3POINT @DMT3

I've been doing penance for not changing my tools or exploiting all the possibilities within Vegas Pro. The problems that just using Photoshop overcomes so easily, but require more effort within Vegas Pro follow:

1) Inconsistent generation and handling of borders with different fX (Media, Track, Event). I overcame this problem by taking a circular route, applying the Border fX to the Text track, then making everything invisible except for the border long enough for me to Save Snapshot to File within Vegas Pro. This step is key for someone who doesn't have or doesn't know how to use a photo editor.

2) Maintaining pixel aspect ratio when the graphic is used in projects of different dimensions was a challenge that I had to overcome. I did this by using the Pan/Crop tool to crop to the dimensions of the graphic and then setting the Project Properties to those dimensions. (Good Housekeeping Tip: Don't use non-integer dimensions.)

3) Reusing Assets. Building self-contained nested project(s) solves that problem.

I'll be editing this entry as files upload and I have more points to share.

Create Text Box and Crop

Create Border and Save as Separate File

Expose Text, Animate, Insert into Master

Full Disclosure

This is a thought experiment for me. I'll continue to use Photoshop. I also plan to take August off.

xberk wrote on 7/24/2022, 5:34 PM

Good stuff @john_dennis .. Lots of ways to skin a cat .. I'll play with this .. Nice way to learn some new stuff.

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3POINT wrote on 7/25/2022, 2:05 AM

This is a thought experiment for me. I'll continue to use Photoshop. I also plan to take August off.

This was probably the most complicated workaround possible to generate a simple squared box around a text with Vegas. I understand you need to take a month off now....😂

formingus wrote on 7/26/2022, 4:05 AM

@formingus

I'm not surprised you didn't follow my Photoshop method. Here is a demo customized for use of the Rectangle drawing tool. Once generated in Vegas Pro, I also moved all the Text work into a layered .PSD (which Vegas handles just fine).

I did follow as a solution, but that LAG ruin a bit compailation, Thanks a lot for the effort and replay. Appreciated

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formingus wrote on 7/26/2022, 4:11 AM

Ok. Here's my solution (step by step) completely within Vegas Pro. Learned some things here -- thanks everyone!

Gr8, this was just gr8 smooth and play OK. Thanks for your effort and replay

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