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Grazie wrote on 9/12/2012, 1:11 AM
Sometimes I click and drag on the wrong place and there appears the loop region between the small yellow triangles.
You need to Click and Drag the Event. If you Click and drag on an area of the Timeline that hasn't got any Events, you're setting up that Selection - that's what Vegas does, and was designed to do.

How can I make it go away?
Firstly by NOT dragging on any area devoid of Events. Remember Vegas was designed to allow us to Drag out a Selection this way. Secondly, if this is annoying to you to get rid of it, you can go into

Options > Preferences > Editing (tab) and select "Collapse Loop Region when no time selection is present"
This will have the result of when you NEXT click anywhere on the Timeline that Loop Selection will collapse.

Personally, having the Selection feature always available is worthwhile. There have been few occasions in my 10 years with Vegas that I haven't wanted it to be available to me.

Cheers

Grazie

rabsamir wrote on 9/12/2012, 4:20 AM
Hi Grazie
Thanks for your prompt response.
Yes I agree with you and in every case when I needed the region it was easy to set and as you say, worthwhile.

What I mean is something like this:
I press M and a Marker appears. I don't want that marker there? I right-click on it and click "delete" and it is gone.
I move an event to the right,notice that I made a mistake, I click ctrl-z and the moving is undone.
I drag the cursor where there is no event, as you say, and there it is, a loop region which wasn't there before. ctrl-z doesn't undo it.
When I open a new project the tiny triangles are not collapsed, they aren't there at all (at least I havent' seen them). If I now open a region they stay, collapsed or expanded.
And that was the question. Can I undo this, send the region away, "erase" the triangles, like it was at the beginning?

>How can I make it go away?
>Firstly by NOT dragging on any area devoid of Events. Remember Vegas was >designed to allow us to Drag out a Selection this way. Secondly, if this is >annoying to you to get rid of it, you can go into

Hehe, as you surely know, "things" happen. And anyway one cannot undo something one has not done previously :-)
If I wisely do NOT drag on that area, there is nothing to go away afterwards.

Just a little friendly joke.

Regards

Jorge
Richard Jones wrote on 9/12/2012, 4:53 AM
Doesn't pressing Q remove the loop (i.e. making the blue bar between the pointers disappear)? Then, when placing the cursor elsewhere (or perhaps it's when another selection is made), the pointers disappear as well.

Richard
rabsamir wrote on 9/12/2012, 6:10 AM
Yes i think that's what I needed.

Thanks Richard.
Grazie wrote on 9/12/2012, 6:11 AM
Before "Q" :-



After "Q" :-



You'd still have the Triangles and that Greyed-Bar.

Grazie

farss wrote on 9/12/2012, 6:37 AM
When you don't want it, it's there, sort of.
When you want it, it goes away, sort of.

I've never understood why it was designed to work the way it does.

Bob.
Arthur.S wrote on 9/12/2012, 6:48 AM
Press i and o together.
amendegw wrote on 9/12/2012, 7:18 AM
A simple script: CollapseLoop.zip

A very quick tut (sorry about the sound - did this on my laptop and only had about 15 minutes before I have to leave for the day).



Enjoy,
...Jerry

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System:           Windows 11 Pro
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Installed Memory: 64.0 GB
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Display:          1920x1200 240 hertz
Storage (8TB Total):
    OS Drive:       NVMe KIOXIA 4096GB
        Data Drive:     NVMe Samsung SSD 990 PRO 4TB
        Data Drive:     Glyph Blackbox Pro 14TB

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Grazie wrote on 9/12/2012, 7:32 AM
Eggscelent Jezzer!

Grazie
Chienworks wrote on 9/12/2012, 8:02 AM
"Press i and o together."

Well, not together, but press i, then press o, without doing anything else in between. This is the second easiest method i've found and the one i always suggest.

Personally, i find the absolute easiest method is to simply ignore it and it will mostly ignore you.
rabsamir wrote on 9/12/2012, 2:48 PM
Thanks Jerry
I think I'm missing something. I cannot find that button in the window you mention. Is maybe something I should load before? I have Vegas Pro 11.0

BTW just pressing "i" does collapse the loop, no "o" needed or so it seems

Jorge

Chienworks wrote on 9/12/2012, 3:56 PM
Jorge, that will only happen if your cursor just happens to be on the out point of the loop. If your cursor is anywhere else then the "o" will be needed.
amendegw wrote on 9/12/2012, 4:59 PM
"I think I'm missing something. I cannot find that button in the window you mention. Is maybe something I should load before?"Did you unzip CollapseLoop.zip and copy the contents to you Vegas Scripting folder?

...Jerry

System Model:     Alienware M18 R1
System:           Windows 11 Pro
Processor:        13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13980HX, 2200 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s)

Installed Memory: 64.0 GB
Display Adapter:  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU (16GB), Nvidia Studio Driver 566.14 Nov 2024
Overclock Off

Display:          1920x1200 240 hertz
Storage (8TB Total):
    OS Drive:       NVMe KIOXIA 4096GB
        Data Drive:     NVMe Samsung SSD 990 PRO 4TB
        Data Drive:     Glyph Blackbox Pro 14TB

Vegas Pro 22 Build 239

Cameras:
Canon R5 Mark II
Canon R3
Sony A9

rabsamir wrote on 9/13/2012, 1:27 AM
Hmmm... I'm still doing something wrong

I copied the unzipped files to the Script Menu folder but Vegas just doesn't see them, all other scripts are in the list but not CollapseLoop. I restarted the program and then restarted the PC as well but to no avail :-(

Very misterious
rabsamir wrote on 9/13/2012, 3:05 AM
You're right, thanks :-)
Richard Jones wrote on 9/13/2012, 5:33 AM
Jorge

Glad the Q tip was useful.

Grazie

I've seen your Dropbox copies but find that when I de-esselect the loop using Q and then make another selection (e.g. double clicking on anothetr event) the yellow triangles that marked the loop disappear. (Usine 10e)

Richard
amendegw wrote on 9/13/2012, 6:28 AM
"I copied the unzipped files to the Script Menu folder but Vegas just doesn't see them, all other scripts are in the list but not CollapseLoop. I restarted the program and then restarted the PC as well but to no avail :-("Try this:

In your "Documents" folder, create a new folder: "Vegas Script Menu" (exact spelling required). Copy the CollapseLoop.cs & CollapseLoop.cs.png files to that folder. Make sure you restart Vegas.

If that doesn't work, I'm stumped.

...Jerry

System Model:     Alienware M18 R1
System:           Windows 11 Pro
Processor:        13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13980HX, 2200 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s)

Installed Memory: 64.0 GB
Display Adapter:  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU (16GB), Nvidia Studio Driver 566.14 Nov 2024
Overclock Off

Display:          1920x1200 240 hertz
Storage (8TB Total):
    OS Drive:       NVMe KIOXIA 4096GB
        Data Drive:     NVMe Samsung SSD 990 PRO 4TB
        Data Drive:     Glyph Blackbox Pro 14TB

Vegas Pro 22 Build 239

Cameras:
Canon R5 Mark II
Canon R3
Sony A9

Arthur.S wrote on 9/13/2012, 6:56 AM
Sounds a lotta work when i+o does the same thing. Or am I missing something??
rabsamir wrote on 9/13/2012, 7:15 AM
Young man, your short term memory is surely better then mine. "I" + "Q" (or was it "O" after the "L" ?) may be simpler depending on one's possibilities

Hehe, just a little joke but as always, I'm learning a lot just out of one silly question of mine.

This is really a nice and useful forum. I really enjoy trying different approaches.

Jorge
Chienworks wrote on 9/13/2012, 11:08 AM
Arthur, gotta agree with you there. I'm constantly amazed at the macros and scripts people produce which have a longer and more complex invocation than the feature they automate.

I think the best example i ever heard of was a kid who programmed his parents' touch tone phone with all the commonly used numbers and proudly announced that in order to get 911, all you have to do is press Func, Speed Dial, 1182, #.

We've had programmers here at work who have written a subroutine to add two numbers together. Where one might reasonably do this:

$c = $a + $b;

Now the code becomes:

$c = AddFunction ($a, $b);

Exactly how is this an improvement?
rabsamir wrote on 9/13/2012, 11:37 AM
Ah come on, the perceived beauty, the satisfaction of doing it.

In playing chess you want to win. If your opponent makes a stupid mistake, you win easily.
1-0
If he doesn't but you play a GREAT game (More work) you win.
1-0
As you say "Exactly how is this an improvement? "

You have sex and produce a child
You have instead GREAT sex (probably more work) and produce a child
"Exactly how is this an improvement? "

Well...

There are helicopters,but some people climb the mountains :-)

All this was meant with humor :-)

Jorge
Arthur.S wrote on 9/13/2012, 2:46 PM
Great sex.....plus i+o. NOW you got me goin' Jorge!! :-)
rabsamir wrote on 9/14/2012, 2:27 AM
Aw... it was just for the sake of an example everybody could understand. Climbing mountains is also not my thing :-)
rabsamir wrote on 9/14/2012, 11:09 AM
Yes it worked!!
Not only does the loop collapse but it also makes the "tinyangles" go away

Thanks Jerry. An interesting introduction to scripting as well

Jorge