Media Manager Input

BudWzr wrote on 1/30/2010, 7:44 AM
I'm going to build a custom media manager for myself, and to share with others, and I remember someone mentioned wanting to copy/paste clips? Or was it references to clips?

AFAIK, subclips are "virtual" clips i.e. aliased pointers, right? Or are they real files?

It's easy to get pigeon-holed building a DB app unless all the parameters are defined beforehand.

What SCS has done is made a skeleton, and plans to fill it out from user feedback, but I doubt many people are going to bother with it, and SCS may drop it later.

I looked at the MS Media Manager, and it's very slick looking but too general.

And someone said SCS has a free SDK? With API support?

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farss wrote on 1/30/2010, 12:27 PM
"AFAIK, subclips are "virtual" clips i.e. aliased pointers, right? Or are they real files?"

They're .sfk files, with rather long file names. Create some subclips and look for the sfk files in the folder that contains the source media, you'll soon see them. They only contain pointers and in/out points.

Bob.

Earl_J wrote on 1/30/2010, 1:03 PM
BudWzr,
look under the downloads tab at the top of the screen... then drop down to development kits...
I think that might be what you're looking for. . .

Until that time... Earl J.
Marc S wrote on 1/30/2010, 7:26 PM
A nice feature would be to be able to "double click loads into trimmer". You can do that in "project media" but not from within media manager.

Thanks, Marc
Grazie wrote on 1/31/2010, 12:01 AM
> A nice feature would be to be able to "double click loads into trimmer".

Yes . . been there . .

Grazie
BudWzr wrote on 1/31/2010, 6:55 AM
I'm kicking around the whole concept of how to index things that are "ethereal", rather than part numbers or invoices.

Should descriptors like sultry, sexy, or jazzy sax be hardwired? Or roll your own?

Do more tags better define something? Or cause confusion.

Can tags be composited to form unique ID's.

Can unique ID's form genres?

It's a lot to soak in and dream about. I'm envisioning a "media bin on steroids" like what SCS calls 3D Track Motion, "Track Motion on steroids".
Earl_J wrote on 1/31/2010, 9:43 AM
What you're pondering is exactly what we've been wrestling with in our history office over the last 18 months or so...
Traditionally, librarians, historians, and archivists support fixed vocabularies for finding aids and descriptive indexing ... while the Google generation would rather have wide open full-text searching to locate every possible combination of each term ...
The former technique narrows the focus and brings the item sought quickly to the front - only if you understand the fixed vocabularies and most efficient searching techniques...
The latter technique widens the search and brings back almost every possible combination to peruse at one's leisure - only if one has the time to individually scan 1,308,437 result items...

In our case, we're building a hybrid of sorts ... a very broad-based fixed vocabulary for the anal-retentive among us as well as the ability for the librarians and historians to add more specific metadata as they desire to help focus the topic more specifically of each item we collect and digitize...

It's not an overnight process ... we're building much of the vocabulary now and finalizing the actual workflow of each item.

All that to simply say that a good media manager would have a simple fixed vocabulary to start for the beginners and also include additional advanced features so the more familiar a user becomes with the process and technique, the more specific they can finesse it for their own purposes and workflow ... no?

Until that time... Earl J.
BudWzr wrote on 1/31/2010, 7:15 PM
Right! If I want to locate a "Desert Landscape" still, that's a piece of cake, but to find a "Peppy Dance" loop.....hahahahahaha. And "percussion"

Definitely the user has to create custom tags.

Myself what I do on Google, is instead of searching "weed killer", I go for "systemic herbicide". I found that using arcane jargon gets me to the specialized "pro" stuff right away, and then I can work my way broader if necessary, but I doubt many people think like that.

The thing about custom tags though is that they introduce "user input data", and this has to be defended against. The biggest headache is mispelling (<like this).

BudWzr wrote on 1/31/2010, 11:46 PM
I think the "fixed" attributes should be "Mood", "Tempo", and "Intensity", with a 1-3 scale each. That would give each piece of music 9 variables, and these are understood implicitly and queried for very fast.

Every musical loop on the planet can fit into these tags, and the end-user makes the decision based on their own preconceived notions.

Then custom tags like "funky", "lounge", etc. can be added but all queries must contain at least the core three. That way results aren't all over the place.

The three core attributes would be like a choke or limiter.

My most pressing need is to organize my loops, I have way too many, and I like to mix from different genres and styles.

If these "core 3" queries are dynamic and always the dataset user tags run against, it would be lightning fast. In other words, by limiting the dataset to be searched, the user's tags would be highly "targetive".

On the other hand, I could be FOS.
BudWzr wrote on 2/1/2010, 12:17 AM
What's bugging me is that SCS is no dummy to database management, and for them to put out that hunk-a-junk MM has me puzzled, and reticent for fear of over simplifying this project.