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Coursedesign wrote on 3/26/2005, 5:35 PM
Do you mean like when film gets stuck in the projector and burns?

I haven't seen that since my last Pan Am flight when they were using a 16mm projector in an overhead bin for the entertainment..

Or just melting? You could try using a slow flame layer as a bump map perhaps.
contender wrote on 3/26/2005, 5:49 PM
yea thats what i would like to create, just like on your Pan Am flight :)

Thanx for your tip CD...by the way where can I get the flame layer?

regards,
Oliver
Spot|DSE wrote on 3/26/2005, 6:37 PM
You could download flames/fire from the Artbeats site, but that'll cost $$, or you can search the Prelinger Archives on www.archive.org. I just did, and found several suitable clips.
contender wrote on 3/27/2005, 2:29 AM
much thanks for that great site Spot. I already found some interesting stuff. thanx again. Oliver
JJKizak wrote on 3/27/2005, 4:08 AM
If your familiar with a great movie called "Two Lane Blacktop" starring a very young Mr. Taylor the end of the movie has such an effect that you describe. The movie was so bad that I doubt you would have to pay for it's use.

JJK
contender wrote on 3/27/2005, 9:43 AM
Thanx JJ but where can I get the end of the movie? Regards
FuTz wrote on 3/27/2005, 8:08 PM
JJ
Two Lane Blacktop
What crap?!??? This ain't !!!
Look at the films they put MiLLioNs in now !
It's a *classic* road movie !!!
Featuring the Beach Boys' drummer ain't it?

Thanks for the reminder

Ok , it's not "Casablanca", but, still... ¦-D
FuTz wrote on 3/27/2005, 8:10 PM

back to the question: you sure can do it with some Media Gen combined with Bezier Mask
Steve Mann wrote on 3/27/2005, 9:33 PM
Can you share the information with us?
FuTz wrote on 3/28/2005, 3:38 AM
It's just plain theory but if you choose a Media Gen, let's say Standard Turbulence or Lava Noise Texture, you can cut into it with the Bezier Mask to get your edge of film that's burning while you change the color of that Noise Texture from kind of bluish to orange to black (while it's "burning"). You then put it on top track, over your footage track so you get the impression that the "movie" is burning.
You'd have to use the Bezier Mask on your footage track to make it "follow" the burning process too, i.e. "leave" a white background where the footage gets destroyed.
Add some smoke over it all, still with some Noise Texture, and you're not very far from getting the effect you're after.


It's very hard to get into all the details but if you've already tinkered with the Noise Textures and the Bezier Mask you could easily find your way through these explanations I guess.
In fact, it's easier to do than to read and YES, it will take some time and effort (lots of keying!) but you could have the exact, precise movement you want with this "burning film" effect...I mean, burn exactly *where* you want , at the *moment* you want it to burn, *according to the elements* you got in the frame second by second.

And if you can find your way with effects that could help you too, it's even better. I'm thinking about Peel transitions and Invert, Glow, Spherize filters which could help you get more realistic finishing somehow.
FuTz wrote on 3/28/2005, 3:45 AM

And ! and and and... don't forget to add that "burning film" sound effect. Do nOt forget. It'll "double" the effect...
Jimmy_W wrote on 3/28/2005, 4:12 AM
http://www.adorage.de/gb/index.html?aktionen-00000005-00000256.html

I found that effect in the demo version of this program.

Jimmy
contender wrote on 3/28/2005, 9:47 AM
Futz

big thanx for that thourogh description. im tinkering with it now. ill let you know the results
Oliver