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EricLNZ wrote on 8/31/2021, 11:11 PM

Is your background menu the same pixel size as your project size?

Davo_whitey wrote on 8/31/2021, 11:19 PM

Is your background menu the same pixel size as your project size?


The dvd setting is 704x576.
The background image is 1920x1080.
However the thumbnails are not part of the background image. They are the buttons made by the software when creating the scene selection menu.

EDIT:
I just adjusted the background image and ran out anew copy and it was the same issue.
I also did another with a default background image from the software and it did the same thing again.

EricLNZ wrote on 9/1/2021, 4:25 AM

However the thumbnails are not part of the background image. They are the buttons made by the software when creating the scene selection menu

But it may be relevant as the highlighting is probably positioned relative to the background.

Anyway have a look at the two old threads below to see if there's anything there that relates to your problem. You are taking us back a few years with 704x576 instead of the nowadays normal 720x576.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/dvd-a3-highlighting-icky-poo-poo--41419/#ca213936

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/button-highlights-postition-shift--51526/

 

 

Davo_whitey wrote on 9/1/2021, 4:30 AM

I use 704 for this because the original supplied by my client is 1280x720 (16:9) and if I use 720 It adds small black bars to the left and right of the video.

The highlighting is positioned relative to the thumbnails as it is all apart of the button.

EricLNZ wrote on 9/1/2021, 5:01 AM

That's because SD widescreen 16:9 and SD widescreen "16:9" aren't the same. SD is actually slightly wider hence the small black bars when you convert HD to SD and bars at the top and bottom when converting SD to HD format.

1280/720 = 1.7777
720/576 with PAR 1.4568 = 1.8210 Note the difference.

I wouldn't expect using 704 instead of 720 to make any difference to the image shape as 704 uses a different PAR (pixel aspect ratio). If somehow you are using 704 with 720s PAR maybe it is causing problems.

There may be a better way depending on which DVDA version you have. What is your version and build number?

@Steve Grisetti Any clues please Steve?

 

Davo_whitey wrote on 9/1/2021, 5:04 AM

That's because SD widescreen 16:9 and SD widescreen "16:9" aren't the same. SD is actually slightly wider hence the small black bars when you convert HD to SD and bars at the top and bottom when converting SD to HD format.

1280/720 = 1.7777
720/576 with PAR 1.4568 = 1.8210 Note the difference.

I wouldn't expect using 704 instead of 720 to make any difference to the image shape as 704 uses a different PAR (pixel aspect ratio). If somehow you are using 704 with 720s PAR maybe it is causing problems.

There may be a better way depending on which DVDA version you have. What is your version and build number?

@Steve Grisetti Any clues please Steve?

 

So would you recommend creating it as 720 with the black bars instead of 704 without black?

What should I create my background image sized as in photoshop?
and do i need to set the PAR in photoshop to something in particular?

EricLNZ wrote on 9/1/2021, 5:09 AM

Let's address your DVDA version first.

Davo_whitey wrote on 9/1/2021, 5:10 AM

Let's address your DVDA version first.

It's one of the very last versions. Build 100

Steve Grisetti wrote on 9/1/2021, 6:25 AM

I think you're on the right track, Eric. Though I don't know who Davo is experiencing the issue he is.

EricLNZ wrote on 9/1/2021, 6:34 AM

It's one of the very last versions. Build 100

Good that's DVDA7 Pro Build 100, same as mine. The following is what I'd do

Make the project 720x576 16:9
Double click on each thumb so it opens the media, right click on it and select "Crop & Adjust"
Right click on the Crop box and select "Match Output Aspect". You will note it crops a small amount top and bottom to make it fit SD WS
Make the background in Photo shop 1049x576 pixels. That's the square pixel equivalent of SD WD.

 

Davo_whitey wrote on 9/1/2021, 11:49 PM

It's one of the very last versions. Build 100

Good that's DVDA7 Pro Build 100, same as mine. The following is what I'd do

Make the project 720x576 16:9
Double click on each thumb so it opens the media, right click on it and select "Crop & Adjust"
Right click on the Crop box and select "Match Output Aspect". You will note it crops a small amount top and bottom to make it fit SD WS
Make the background in Photo shop 1049x576 pixels. That's the square pixel equivalent of SD WD.

 

Eric sir you are a champion.

I changed various setting you mentioned 1 by 1 to find out what triggers the issue.
The entire problem is the "Match Output Aspect"
Even with a large 1920x1080 background image as long as you click crop and adjust and match output aspect on the media file it will fix the alignment of the highlights.

Cheers

EricLNZ wrote on 9/2/2021, 3:05 AM

@Davo_whitey That's great. Glad you fixed it.

It confirms my suspicion that the highlighting, which is in the form of a mask, doesn't attach its position to the thumbnail. Instead it somehow independently relates its position to the background image.

This thread could be useful to anyone in the future having the same problem so I'm marking your post as "solution".