Messed up veg file

jrdiandrea wrote on 3/26/2009, 1:37 PM
I am new at this and working hard at trying to learn to do simply editing, streaming & burn to bluray , some edited AVCHD video shot with a Sony HDR-SR1. Several weeks ago I rendered a file and kept the veg file to use latter to render to different formats as i try to get a handle on this stuff. I used this same veg file yesterday to render and burn to Bluray and it was all messed up. Certain edited clips were out of order, had the wrong voice trac, etc. What happened? All I did was open it again to ghet it onto the timeline. I didn't touch the timeline at all that I'm aware of. Did they just get knocked around....and, if so, Is there A WAY TO LOCK THESE THINGS??

Thanks

Comments

Former user wrote on 3/26/2009, 1:39 PM
Just to be sure, you didn't move any files or delete anything involved in the project?

Dave T2
jrdiandrea wrote on 3/26/2009, 8:36 PM
well, I'm afraid I may have. What I KNOW is that after finishing the first render, I moved the folder containing the original AVCHD streams. Then, when I just tried using the veg file again I had to help it find the "missing" files.......

To me, it seems as though the edits in the veg file got moved around somehow. is there a way to lock or some how keep additional movement of files & fx once completed?

I'm hoping I don't have to re-edit the piece. Any help is appreciated ...

thx!
blink3times wrote on 3/26/2009, 9:00 PM
I'm not sure I understand this. I've moved files around before and not run into this problem. At worst Vegas will come up with a "file off line" warning and ask to relink.

There is something else going on here and the only thing I can think of is different files with the same name.

When you import from your cam is it set up to give sequential file names or is it set up to start again at file 0000 when you erase the cam and do another shoot?
jrdiandrea wrote on 3/27/2009, 6:04 PM
the files are numbered sequentially. I guess it could be seeing multiple files some how....it's confusing. how i've been starting the program is by double clicking the veg file , opening the vegas program. I'm wondering if I shouldn't "clean the slate" so to speak & start from scratch somehow. .... look around to be sure I have no other rogue files...then begin again to see what happens.....

I'm kinda lost. obviously I can just re-edit this stuff but really would get this figured out now to avoid doing whatever stupid thing I must of dobe?!
lynn1102 wrote on 3/27/2009, 6:44 PM
Have you tried loading the backup file?
I have had my machine put imported clips where I didn't want them, even though I told it where to put the files. I had to search to find them, then things were OK.

Lynn
farss wrote on 3/27/2009, 6:52 PM
Is it possible when you opened the project after you moved the files and Vegas asked for you to locate the offline files you pointed it to the wrong file?

To be honest I've had a project file get trashed once or twice over the years but the project was totally toasted i.e. would crash Vegas.

To get something as subtly wrong as to loose sync and not trash the project enitrely is kind of hard to imagine happening.

I always Save As to sequentially numbered project files very regularly and keep all of those versions. Project files are tiny in the grand scheme of things and having one to go back to has saved me a few times when this kind of thing has happened.

Bob.
jrdiandrea wrote on 3/27/2009, 10:12 PM
thx to all for responding so far...really appreciate it.

tomorrow I'm going to clean everything up & try to start over...

Bob,

when you say; "I always Save As to sequentially numbered project files very regularly and keep all of those versions." do you mean the veg files? I get the impression you're talking of other files.

I have lots of AVCHD home video from the last 2-3 yrs that I want to edit & already in this short period of time I've learned the importance of preserving the initial edits (veg files?) so I can render to whatever the flavor of the day is. At least, with the veg files, that's what I thought I was doing!

I bought a Vaio AW190 notebook so I could edit these files, burn to Blu-ray AND to stream rendered files from my home media server via HDMI to my projector. Now, I know how very simple most of what I've just described is for most of you on these forums....I've learned a lot just following some of the threads....but I have run into all kinds of obstacles. Before I continue editing all of the AVCHD I have, I need to figure all of this out....even burning to blu-ray...seems there are many options...not sure what the best way or tools to use are. So, any help and suggestions on where else to get info would be welcome!!
farss wrote on 3/28/2009, 12:25 AM
"do you mean the veg files? "

Yes.

e.g. Project-01.veg, Project-02.veg....

Obviously instead of Project I use a more descriptive name.

One feature I do like in another program is Increment and Save. Just makes it that little bit easier....

Bob.
jrdiandrea wrote on 3/28/2009, 8:23 AM
Yea, I save every 2-3 edits but I simply save the veg file to the same one, updating it. You apparently save as creating a new file each save?, giving you multiple saved veg files of the same project, correct? if this is the case &, if I did that, then I would have the one before the final save to use since the final got messed up somehow....I would then only need to make last couple edits to complete, then render....am I following what you're getting at?
jrdiandrea wrote on 3/29/2009, 6:33 AM
I have checked everything i can think of and the only conclusion i can come up with is that I must have accidentally moved some of the edits on the time line without realizing it.

Is there a way to lock the veg file once editing s completed to avoid errors like this?
farss wrote on 3/29/2009, 6:35 AM
"I would then only need to make last couple edits to complete, then render....am I following what you're getting at? "

YES!

Bob.
farss wrote on 3/29/2009, 6:37 AM
"Is there a way to lock the veg file once editing s completed to avoid errors like this?"

Not really although I guess you could flag it as Read Only and Windows would prevent it being over written. Of course if you don't Save a project it doesn't change....

Bob.
jrdiandrea wrote on 3/29/2009, 2:30 PM
Thanks alot, Bob. I'll add this to my lessons learned.

Now off to make another mistake!

JR
jrdiandrea wrote on 3/29/2009, 3:21 PM
Thanks alot, Bob. I'll add this to my lessons learned.

Now off to make another mistake!

JR
jetdv wrote on 3/30/2009, 6:27 AM
Bob, mark your file "read only" and then try to save it and see what happens. You'll notice it doesn't make any difference!