Hi there,
How can I enable MKV files in vegas 15? It's a format that is used by Youtube AND Vimeo, so I would say it's ridiculous that it doesn't work when I try to use downloads from these platforms in a project?
Thanks in advance
I use yt-dlg to output m4a files which work fine.
MKV support in VEGAS is limited and unreliable- use a better container for editing. ShutterEncoder can remux it if you already have many files downloaded.
VEGAS Pro 15 does not have any MKV support.
Newer versions of VEGAS Pro have some limited MKV support and VEGAS Pro 21 now has much more complete MKV support. Consider an upgrade.
We can handle MKV files with information about the key frames, typically from camera devices. If this information is missing (typically ripped Internet movies), we cannot position in the files and do reject these.
Fully lossless conversion to MP4 as described above, should always be possible.
Thanks all for the help!
It's a real hassle to convert the files to something else first, since it's always stuff that needs to go out under time pressure... I get the question from my client to 'make a compilation of these 10 short youtube videos for me' to livestream them 2 or 3 hours later. So basically I simply don't have enough time for the conversion process AND the rendering of the new video AND putting them on the streaming platform in time...
Have a great weekend!
Thanks all for the help!
It's a real hassle to convert the files to something else first, since it's always stuff that needs to go out under time pressure... I get the question from my client to 'make a compilation of these 10 short youtube videos for me' to livestream them 2 or 3 hours later. So basically I simply don't have enough time for the conversion process AND the rendering of the new video AND putting them on the streaming platform in time...
Have a great weekend
All you need is a workflow that doesn't involve intermediate MKV files. Do a couple of experiments (did you try the program I use?) to find one that works without intermediate steps.
Alternatively, depending on what is in the MKV you can remux it to MP4 in seconds, it's not a conversion.
However, these apps may grab the raw streams from YouTube which can be VP9. That's not editable in any version of VEGAS and needs conversion (full re-encode).
Where are you getting your MKV files?
If by chance they are from OBS, it does its own in-app conversions to Vegas-friendly MP4.
There are a number of free conversion programs including Shutter Encoder, which shouldn't be that inconvenient to use with your 7 year old Vegas version.
For further peer support, start by providing your file details:
Hello @marcel-vossen, if you could provide a sample file, I could have a look, if or why it does (not) import. Maybe the specific distinctivnesses can be added/fixed.
It's a format that is used by Youtube AND Vimeo, so I would say it's ridiculous that it doesn't work when I try to use downloads from these platforms in a project?
Beware of re-using copyrighted footage from Youtube in your own projects. I recently heard about a person who was charged for several 100k Euros for using Youtube footage in his own Youtube uploads...
I have the latest version of VP21 and that still dosent like mkv files, so like the others say, find someway to convert them.
I have the latest version of VP21 and that still dosent like mkv files, so like the others say, find someway to convert them.
@Shogun__Gaming Could you share MediaInfo for what's in your MKV? Also you can see the developer above request a sample file that doesn't open or doesn't work well to test. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/
@RogerS ill try and find some, but i usually just remux them instantly via obs to mp4, but the few times i tried dragging the mkv file in, it shows up in the timeline, but only one video track and no audio
That would be great- here's a chance to get the underlying problem fixed
It's a format that is used by Youtube AND Vimeo, so I would say it's ridiculous that it doesn't work when I try to use downloads from these platforms in a project?
Beware of re-using copyrighted footage from Youtube in your own projects. I recently heard about a person who was charged for several 100k Euros for using Youtube footage in his own Youtube uploads...
Hi there, I see what you mean, but I was downloading our own projects from youtube to make a compilation of interviews. That would have been much faster, but I had to search for the MP4 originals on my harddrive after all because of this issue... ;)
Hello @marcel-vossen, if you could provide a sample file, I could have a look, if or why it does (not) import. Maybe the specific distinctivnesses can be added/fixed.
I was talking about any Youtube or Vimeo download in general really. In this case I used '4k Video downloader' to download our own videos from the channel because someone sent me the YT links of the interviews I had to make a compilation of...
Here's the info for one of them, if it is of any help to you ;)
Unique ID : 256113829803772647903982765538582364823 (0xC0ADBAB9E5E288DB9A4109767CCE8297)
Complete name : H:\4K Video Downloader\Anouska Parkinson, zenuwpijn en migraine.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 99.9 MiB
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Overall bit rate : 5 052 kb/s
Frame rate : 30.033 FPS
Movie name : Anouska: Parkinson, zenuwpijn en migraine
Writing application : Lavf58.29.100
Writing library : Lavf58.29.100
ErrorDetectionType : Per level 1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.2
Format settings : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 30.033 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 161 r3027 4121277
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=2 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=infinite / keyint_min=29 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=5 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=5500 / vbv_bufsize=15000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
DURATION : 00:02:45,866000000
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : A_AAC-2
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -100 ms
Default : Yes
Forced : No
DURATION : 00:02:45,952000000
Hello @marcel-vossen, if you could provide a sample file, I could have a look, if or why it does (not) import. Maybe the specific distinctivnesses can be added/fixed.
I was talking about any Youtube or Vimeo download in general really. In this case I used '4k Video downloader' to download our own videos from the channel because someone sent me the YT links of the interviews I had to make a compilation of...
Can you share MediaInfo? Not seeing that here with YouTube downloads using other tools.
I'll invite you and give you permission to download and share a link to a download to a very uninteresting video I made: https:// youtu.be/cAENqr6t9yU?si=MZaS1JLw670Y76bF
The developers here could use the file to try to fix the problem you are seeing.
Hello @marcel-vossen, if you could provide a sample file, I could have a look, if or why it does (not) import. Maybe the specific distinctivnesses can be added/fixed.
I was talking about any Youtube or Vimeo download in general really. In this case I used '4k Video downloader' to download our own videos from the channel because someone sent me the YT links of the interviews I had to make a compilation of...
Can you share MediaInfo? Not seeing that here with YouTube downloads using other tools.
I'll invite you and give you permission to download and share a link to a download to a very uninteresting video I made: https:// youtu.be/cAENqr6t9yU?si=MZaS1JLw670Y76bF
The developers here could use the file to try to fix the problem you are seeing.
This is the media info of one of my files:
General
Unique ID : 256113829803772647903982765538582364823 (0xC0ADBAB9E5E288DB9A4109767CCE8297)
Complete name : H:\4K Video Downloader\Anouska Parkinson, zenuwpijn en migraine.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 99.9 MiB
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Overall bit rate : 5 052 kb/s
Frame rate : 30.033 FPS
Movie name : Anouska: Parkinson, zenuwpijn en migraine
Writing application : Lavf58.29.100
Writing library : Lavf58.29.100
ErrorDetectionType : Per level 1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.2
Format settings : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 30.033 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 161 r3027 4121277
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=2 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=infinite / keyint_min=29 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=5 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=5500 / vbv_bufsize=15000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
DURATION : 00:02:45,866000000
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : A_AAC-2
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -100 ms
Default : Yes
Forced : No
DURATION : 00:02:45,952000000
It's a format that is used by Youtube AND Vimeo, so I would say it's ridiculous that it doesn't work when I try to use downloads from these platforms in a project?
Beware of re-using copyrighted footage from Youtube in your own projects. I recently heard about a person who was charged for several 100k Euros for using Youtube footage in his own Youtube uploads...
Hi there, I see what you mean, but I was downloading our own projects from youtube to make a compilation of interviews. That would have been much faster, but I had to search for the MP4 originals on my harddrive after all because of this issue... ;)
I would always use the originals for a compilation and not the twice re-rendered youtube downloads and than re-render twice for the next youtube upload...quality will suffer.
Btw, when I use 4k Video Downloader for downloading your Youtube content, the resulting file is an mp4 an can be imported in Vegas without issues...
General
Complete name : C:\Users\theoh\Downloads\Anouska Parkinson, zenuwpijn en migraine.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 70.6 MiB
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 3 571 kb/s
Movie name : Anouska: Parkinson, zenuwpijn en migraine
Writing application : Lavf58.29.100
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4
Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Bit rate : 3 436 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.055
Stream size : 68.0 MiB (96%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 2 min 45 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 128 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 130 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 2.53 MiB (4%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
@RogerS here is a typical MKV that i always remux to MP4 otherwise VP21 dosent like it, like i said above, only one video timeline, no audio
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Kind of stream : Video
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
StreamOrder : 0
Id : 1
Id : 1
Unique ID : 12520496146297164671
Format : HEVC
Format info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format URL : http://www.itu.int
Commercial name : HEVC
Formatprofile : Main 10@L5@High
Internet media type : video/H265
Codec Id : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Codec : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Codec : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Codecprofile : Main 10@L5@High
Duration (ms) : 205417
Duration (ms) : 3mn 25s
Duration (ms) : 3mn 25s 417ms
Duration (ms) : 3mn 25s
Duration (ms) : 00:03:25.417
Duration (ms) : 00:03:25:25
Duration (ms) : 00:03:25.417 (00:03:25:25)
Width : 2560
Width : 2 560 pixels
Height : 1440
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Sampled_Height : 1440
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Display aspect ratio : 1.778
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : CFR
Frame rate mode : Constant
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Frame rate : 60.000 fps
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Resolution : 10
Resolution : 10 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10
Bit depth : 10 bits
Delay : 0
Delay : 00:00:00.000
Delay, origin : Container
Delay, origin : Container
Default : No
Default : No
Forced : No
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
colour_description_present : Yes
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
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Countof stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
Kind of stream : Audio
Stream identifier : 0
StreamOrder : 1
Id : 2
Id : 2
Unique ID : 5955307350283475396
Format : AAC
Format info : Advanced Audio Codec
Commercial name : AAC
Formatprofile : LC
Formatsettings, SBR : No (Explicit)
Formatsettings, SBR : No (Explicit)
Codec Id : A_AAC
Codec : AAC LC
Codec : AAC LC
Codec family : AAC
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Duration (ms) : 3mn 25s
Duration (ms) : 3mn 25s 417ms
Duration (ms) : 3mn 25s
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Duration (ms) : 00:03:25.417
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ChannelLayout : L R
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Frame rate : 46.875
Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay : 0
Delay : 00:00:00.000
Delay, origin : Container
Delay, origin : Container
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Delayrelative to video : 00:00:00.000
Video0 delay : 0
Video0 delay : 00:00:00.000
Title : Track1
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Default : No
Forced : No
Forced : No
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is it because its HEVC?
fixed it..it was because of hevc, switched back to nvenc h264 and now it works fine :)
Good to know for program development purposes it's MKV-HEVC that is the problem.
@RogerS its generally HEVC thats the problem, i tried rendering another one out in mp4 but used HEVC, nope, vegas dosent like that either
For development purposes could you just make short dummy videos with HEVC/MKV and HEVC/MP4 and put a link here for download (drive, box, dropbox, etc.)?
This is odd as HEVC in MP4 generally works in VEGAS.
You may also use iDealshare VideoGo to convert the unsupported video format like MKV to VEGAS supported format. To download online video and music files, Allavsoft works great.