Motion Tracking jitters

Roger Bansemer wrote on 1/6/2023, 7:58 AM

I've been working with track motion the past few days and beside crashing constantly, I have not been able to track very well. Here's a very short video on my procedure. I'd sure appreciate any help on what I may be doing wrong.
Thanks

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Jack S wrote on 1/6/2023, 10:21 AM

@Roger Bansemer To avoid any confusion, I suggest you change the heading for your post to 'Motion Tracking', which is different to 'Track Motion'. Having said that, it doesn't immediately look as if you're doing anything wrong. I suggest you first disable GPU processing in Options/Preferences/Video and give it another try. If you're on NVIDIA, I've had weird glitching effects with GPU set to on. Another suggestion. Don't close the motion tracking dialog down until after you've applied the tracking to the media event.

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Vincent-Brice wrote on 1/6/2023, 2:04 PM

Does it still do it if you start at the beginning of the clip and only track forwards? (I think I would have the mask a little larger too, just to make sure that part of the spot doesn't go outside).

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xberk wrote on 1/7/2023, 11:58 AM

I can duplicate the problem but have not yet figured out a solution.

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xberk wrote on 1/7/2023, 12:31 PM

After fooling around with this, I conclude that the title bouncing around is right. You are tracking something that is bouncing so the title is bouncing ...

I just tried something else .. I used "location" for the Mode instead of "Perspective" . This helped considerably.

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Vincent-Brice wrote on 1/7/2023, 2:22 PM

Hi Roger, I tried it on your (screen recorded) clip from the first frame and just tracked forward. I made the mask a little larger too.

 

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Roger Bansemer wrote on 1/7/2023, 2:41 PM

Hi Roger, I tried it on your (screen recorded) clip from the first frame and just tracked forward. I made the mask a little larger too.

Yes, perfect... that's how it's suppose to be. Can't figure out what is going on with mine. I've done it at least a dozen times and get poor results. I know the area I've selected is not too small. Larger areas often go crazy with one of the 4 points selected stretching way out.

 

Roger Bansemer wrote on 1/7/2023, 2:44 PM

@Roger Bansemer To avoid any confusion, I suggest you change the heading for your post to 'Motion Tracking', which is different to 'Track Motion'. Having said that, it doesn't immediately look as if you're doing anything wrong. I suggest you first disable GPU processing in Options/Preferences/Video and give it another try. If you're on NVIDIA, I've had weird glitching effects with GPU set to on. Another suggestion. Don't close the motion tracking dialog down until after you've applied the tracking to the media event.

I've give the GPU a try although I hate having to switch back and forth with a setting like that which benefits other processes of editing.

xberk wrote on 1/7/2023, 2:48 PM

Hi Roger, I tried it on your (screen recorded) clip from the first frame and just tracked forward. I made the mask a little larger too.

Yes, perfect... that's how it's suppose to be. Can't figure out what is going on with mine. I've done it at least a dozen times and get poor results. I know the area I've selected is not too small. Larger areas often go crazy with one of the 4 pointss

Hi Roger, I tried it on your (screen recorded) clip from the first frame and just tracked forward. I made the mask a little larger too.

Yes, perfect... that's how it's suppose to be. Can't figure out what is going on with mine. I've done it at least a dozen times and get poor results. I know the area I've selected is not too small. Larger areas often go crazy with one of the 4 points selected stretching way out.

 

 

elected stretching way out.

 

Are you using "location" for the MODE ?

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xberk wrote on 1/7/2023, 3:16 PM

I always learn stuff in the forum .. @Roger Bansemer .. I tracked your cow with a better result. Used "Location" for the MODE instead of "Perspective" .. my GPU was OFF .. i made the area a little bigger ..

I also tried it with GPU ON. Worked just as well. GPU is a GeForce RTX3080.

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Vincent-Brice wrote on 1/7/2023, 4:58 PM

Yes, I also used "Location" mode. I have had that jumping around problem though, but then I've just carefully redone the mask or start position and then it's been fine. I've never changed any settings, like GPU. (I was expecting to see a UFO tracking @xberk 's cow 😉)

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