Motu 2408Mk2 with Pci324

Dide wrote on 5/7/2004, 12:39 AM
Hi,

I searching for persons who are using A 2408Mk2/PCI324 with Vegas.
I need some advise to upgrade my Pc and searching for a correct working motherboard, with a higher performance than my Amd2000 XP.
With my last upgrade I was having some problems with a motherboard who was using a Via chipset.
The combination of the PCI324 and Motherboard/chipset is very critical.
Now i'm using a gigabyte board with a AMD chipset.

Br,
Dide

Comments

pwppch wrote on 5/7/2004, 7:33 AM
One recommendation: Update to the PCI424 card from MOTU. This card provides better drivers and also exposes some additional features of the MOTU AudioWire hardware.

MOTU has just currently started to sell the card standalone.

Peter
Cold wrote on 5/7/2004, 9:13 AM
Have you guys actually tested this? I'm dealing with Ted through tech support on a similar issue at the moment (trying 424 driver with the 324 card), if I have any success I will post it here.
Steve S.
pwppch wrote on 5/7/2004, 10:47 AM
What issues are you having? Be specific.

Peter
Geoff_Wood wrote on 5/7/2004, 8:38 PM
I've had no probs with 2408-2/PCI324 since MOTU got up to speed with their WDM and ASIO drivers a year or so ago. VIA and Nvdia mobos.

geoff
Cold wrote on 5/8/2004, 8:44 AM
Which driver are you using Geoff?

Peter, here are the specifics of my issue ( from my email to tech support):

-quote-
Hi folks,I've been testing hard with the demo of vegas 5 since it's release and seem to still have the same issues with it that I had in Vegas 4, but did not have in Vegas 3.
Using asio
a)No stable asio playback. Even with the buffers set at their max (2,048)playback is glitchy at best with stutters, speed changes and digital noise. Most noticable while changing any setting during playback.

b)Unusable asio record. Frequent pops, clicks and other bad clock noises, timing speeds up and slows down.

I know my asio drivers work as I tried using them in cubase with absolutely no issues.

Using wave

a)playback is stable and usable.

b)recording timing drifts up to 5 or 6 ms.
example:
1)arm 10 tracks
2)select a diferent input for each track
3)use a singular source to feed all inputs (The vegas metronome is the most convienient (sent out to a board, spread across multiple channels, fed back into vegas), though an external source gave the same results.)
4)compare the the waveforms at multiple points on the timeline (I had drift of 4 or 5 ms that varied over the course of a track. This is not usable for multi mic setups such as tracking drums.)
5) repeat test with vegas 4 and 3 (hint: they line up perfectly in vegas 3).

So I use vegas 3 and barely touched my copy of 4. So far it seems the input engines in vegas 5 for wave and asio are the same as with vegas 4.

What am I overlooking? What else can I try? Has this ever been repro'd?
Any ideas?

-end quote-

Ted's response:

-quote-

It has been brought to my attention that there are bugs in the MOTU 324 driver that cause this type of behavior. Currently, the only workaround is to use the driver for the 424, but that eliminates the mixer applet unfortunately. We have been in touch with MOTU regarding this issue and hopefully it will be resolved at some point.

-end quote-

For your info:
Asus p4c800 deluxe mobo
p4 2.6 cpu
1 gig of ram, running at 800 (2 512 strips)
matrox g550 video card (running dual monitors)
pci raid array card (0+1)
pci 324 hooked to a 2408
plus of course: multiple hard drives, dvd rom, cd burner...

I can be even more specific if need be.
Steve S.

p.s. I will try the 424 driver at some point today and run some tests.





Cold wrote on 5/8/2004, 11:36 AM
So far so good using the pci 424 asio driver ver3.6 with the pci 324 card.
Tested using 24 tracks, all were in sync.
Had to set the buffer to 1024 (but 24 tracks recording, fair enough.)
Quick caveat, manually double check that all previous drivers are gone. Check under system 32 for the asio, device manager, sound, video controller for the wave ,gsif driver. Install new drivers before installing card.
Will continue to test.
Steve S.
zemlin wrote on 5/8/2004, 12:25 PM
I've been running the 424 drivers for quite a while. I tried the latest release (3/31/04) but back down to the previous version (released 04/09/03, I think) because of some wierd behaviors I started seeing.
Cold wrote on 5/8/2004, 3:21 PM
Any examples of this behavior?
Steve S.
zemlin wrote on 5/8/2004, 6:56 PM
The application I was using at the time was Adobe Audition. It was things I would not have thought were driver-related but I haven't had them happen with the older version - before or since. One track of the session would not play. Certain effects were omitted when mixed-down. OB-Tune pitch correction would not work properly.

Back to the older driver version and all is OK.
Cold wrote on 5/8/2004, 7:12 PM
Thanks for the info, I will keep this in mind while I test.
Steve S.
Dide wrote on 5/10/2004, 12:12 AM
Thanks Peter for you reply.

I've asked my local Motu importer (The Netherlands) a quotation for the 424.
But is there no modern P4 board that you know thats supports a 324?
I actually don't need the extra features that a 424 gives, I'm happy with my 324.

Br,
Dide