Movies not full quality

robdido wrote on 12/7/2004, 11:48 AM
I have been converting Super 8 Film onto DV Camcorder. Editing it on VEGAS 5 using DVD PAL as my settings, rendering to mpeg2 (main concept) using the DVD PAL templete. All is fine.
I have put these short clips into DVDA2.0. But the final result on my TV shows the picture to have moments of digital distortion like wavy lines on the screen, actually it looks like what you get when you preview in low quallity.
I preview the menu in Best quality and the movies look fine, its when I put to DVD that I lose quality.
Optimise does not attempt to re-render the movies, and the bitrate is set to around 6000 (what ever Vegas did it at). This should be enough.
One movie came out ok and the only difference with this was this was rendered with "blend" in the deinterlace option.

I created the same clips with DVDAv.1 and did not have this loss in quality.
I have been racking my brain out, trying different interlace options, but from reading here, you shouldn't have to touch anything.

I tried the DVD Architect PAL templete, but still get a crappy quality film.

Can someone please help. I will try to post a picture of how my finished picture looks.

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cworld29 wrote on 12/7/2004, 9:35 PM
Do these clips play fine in software? Does the finished DVD files play fine in a software player?

I have had a similar problem. Give them to DVDA as an .AVI and let DVDA render them. Does this make a difference.

I had a similar problem with clips I wanted ot use as menu backgrounds. They looked fine in preview but playing the created DVD files in wither a software player or a set top showed that the quality had dropped considerably. Even after rendering to MPEG2 DVDA vido stream format, DVDA would recompress.

I figured if DVDA was going to compress anyway I might as well give it AVIs. So I did some experimenting and found that rendering as DV with Sony YUV codec at Best quality settings gave me a file that DVDA would not ruin.

Don't know if this will help or not but give it a try.

robdido wrote on 12/8/2004, 9:15 AM
I will try it.
Another problem now is that the first DVD I created worked fine except for the low quality of the film, but now every subseqant DVD I make whilst experementing to get the film good is now freezing on me. Some just come back as "Bad Disk" when put in my DVD player. They work fine on my PC DVD player, but get stuck continually on my standalone DVD.
Dont know if its the burn process, my DVD player, or the actual DVD disks.
The process of elimination is taking so long and driving me crazy.
Might just go back to VHS. At least I know that works.

Anyone know how to put it on VHS.
I take it I just have to render to DV, then hook up my VCR and record it.
Anyone know where I can get a simple primer on how to put all my movies back onto VHS using VEGAS
ScottW wrote on 12/8/2004, 9:33 AM
Hook a firewire camcorder that supports passthru up to your computer. Hook the VHS deck up to the S-VIDEO out on the camcorder and us the Print To Tape function in Vegas to send the output to the camcorder and then to the VHS deck.

As for your DVD issue, many DVD players have problems playing burnt media. So it could just be your player, or did you just by some cheap no-name brand of media? Lots of folks (including myself) have had very good luck with Ritek media.

--Scott
robdido wrote on 12/8/2004, 11:56 AM
Scott the legend strikes again. Thanks for your help
Cheers
Rob
robdido wrote on 12/14/2004, 4:09 PM
I did some more experimenting and rendered a short 5 minute clip in every possible way. Put it all on one dvd to see what works.

Found that if I chose the DV PAL and used "Blend" in the deinterlace option
when rendering in VEGAS 5, that my picture was perfect when playing
back on my TV.

You can choose whatever PAL or NTCS depending on your region, most TV's these days play both. But it was the "blend" that fixed it.

Note this was for Super8 film converted to handycam.
Must be due to the fact that the Super8 footage has high movement.
Not sure why but it worked.

Also remember to keep your film within the 10% border for Safe area, as most TV's don't display the outer 10% of the movie. Very bad when you got
text or subtitles in your movie.