once i get home i will do that, but i am using event pan/crop to move the mask to follow me, i don't know other way to do it https://prnt.sc/Zm7meYQKwZRo

@Godzinhu I'm not 100% sure what you're doing because you have Motion Tracker in the fx chain before Pan/Crop, Whatever tracking you've done may be being counteracted by your keyframes in Pan/Crop but apart from the 1st keyframe there's no other keyframes on the position timeline, 🤷‍♂️ You need to click on Mask on the left if you want to keyframe the mask, the dotted selection box in Pan/Crop will change & the controls on the left will change to mask controls, In your pic it shows Position highlighted, that also shows by the dotted box on screen.

motion tracker was selected but it wasnt doing anything in the scene, when i move the mask to the left i have to move the position to the right to compensate, is this the right way to do it ? There is no way to lock the position in place and just move the mask ? Because it feels so weird to do like this and it also messes with the default position that i want for the camera in the video

If you buy VEGAS 21 suite, or VEGAS 21 post, or any of the suite or post VEGAS 365 versions (basically any VEGAS version that doesn't have "Edit" in the name), they all come with mocha, which makes this sort of thing far easier to do. Watch the mocha tutorial videos stickied to the top of the VEGAS video forums, you'll see just how powerful it is. It is the industry standard tool to use for masking and motion tracking.

@fr0sty The tool that you mention really looks amazing, i have watched a video here, but it feels like really complicated to do for a simple webcam centralization haha, and i am amateur in video edditing so maybe this tool is way beyond me, i wish vegas could do it in a simpler way

You want the video to remain stabilized under a stationary mask, so as you move, the video pans around in order to keep your face in the same spot of the circular mask. This is how to do that exact effect in mocha VEGAS (starting at the 8 minute mark).

Mocha looks intimidating but I found it useful for tracking a subject and creating a mask even without really understanding it.

For just this circle are you sure VEGAS motion tracking can't do it? This and a circular bezier mask? (Haven't tried it myself for a use case like this, I use it to selectively color moving objects or have text follow an object)

You want the video to remain stabilized under a stationary mask, so as you move, the video pans around in order to keep your face in the same spot of the circular mask. This is how to do that exact effect in mocha VEGAS (starting at the 8 minute mark).

@fr0sty It feels quite challenging for me, but i will give it a try. I understood the concept of centralization, but i quite didn't got how i would place it under a circular mask without having to keep moving it arround like i was doing in pan and crop

@RogerS I have tried to use motion tracking but for some reason it wasn't working for me, when i tried to track something it failed i didn't understood why so i gave up

@Godzinhu Hi, pls share the video of what you're trying to do, make it as long as you'd like, actually longer or more info is better 👍

Mocha looks intimidating but I found it useful for tracking a subject and creating a mask even without really understanding it.

For just this circle are you sure VEGAS motion tracking can't do it? This and a circular bezier mask? (Haven't tried it myself for a use case like this, I use it to selectively color moving objects or have text follow an object)

VEGAS can motion track the circle to a face, but it will move around, which he doesn't want. He wants the circle mask to remain stationary, and the video beneath the mask to pan around automatically so that the face remain centered inside of the circle. The best way I know how to do this in VEGAS is using Mocha VEGAS.

It's a bit challenging to learn, but if you do learn it, you can do some really cool stuff, like sticking an image to your wall that remain in place as the camera moves, changing the image that is on a computer or cell phone screen even as the camera moves around, isolating people from the background behind them, removing things from the video frame entirely, etc.

@Former user Actually @fr0sty understood exactly what i am trying to do, its just my lack of skill that are preventing to do so, i am trying mocha as we speek, since i am still in the trial for the vegas post, if i manage to do what i am trying to do i will probably buy the software, it opens a lot of possibilities to video edditing, i got the potential of the tool, just need to understand the usage

then i go for the keyframes and move the mask to keep in sync with my face, but the problem is that the mask moves aswell in the feed. I want the mask to keep moving as much as i like but i want to the source in the video remain in the same position,

@Godzinhu Ok sorry I was getting confused when you said "and move the mask" & "I want the mask to keep moving as much as i like" but then -

when i move left i have to adjust the mask to the left, but i don't want the mask to move in the video,

So you want the circle mask to stay like this not moving & your face to stay within that circle when you move around.?

@Former user Yes! sorry thats my mistake, i wasn't clear enough

@Godzinhu No prob, it's not easy to put it writing sometimes, If the problem was down to a bit of camera movement you could poss use Stabilization but this is you moving around,

Update: I used mocha to track the movement, now i have a pretty precise moving bubble haha, i guess that my issue is to understand how in the world i just place a static mask and just adjust the video inside it, thats my barrier atm

@Godzinhu Yeah i was thinking that, somehow you need to reverse engineer that,

If you use the tracking tutorial that begins at 8 minutes in the video above, it should freeze your face in one spot on the frame no matter where you move it... from there, just move your face into the circle... you're applying the motion tracking to the circle, instead of applying it to the video of your face, that's where you're messing up here. You need to freeze your face into one spot on the video first, using a combination of mocha and vegas stabilization, then overlay the circle mask on top of it.

I don't know exactly what you're doing, but I"ll assume you're playing a game, while recording yourself, then editing them together for a short highlight video with facecam. If that's the case you could export your edited face camera track full frame, import it to the free PC version of Capcut, use auto- reframe, then exported the reframed video back into vegas , resize and mask it with a circle and place it in corner of your video.

Only problem I could see is if timing is not perfect and you get some drift when importing it back into Vegas. Capcut has limited preset encoding frame rates and I don't think you can add a manual frame rate of your choice.

He already has a better option with Mocha, might as well go with that.

By the way, this may make things easier on you. In the tutorial video I posted, she does an extra step to exclude the girl's hair from the motion track that isn't necessary in your case, so you can skip that part. Just track your face (instead of tracking the ear like she does on the girl, track your nose, or eyes), then export that face track to the VEGAS motion tracking system from the mocha effects panel in VEGAS, and do like she does in the video, select the "freeze motion effect" in the vegas motion tracking panel. This should lock your face into the same spot in the frame no matter where you move your head, it does the panning for you. From there, just move your face to where you want it to be on the screen, and add in the circle mask.

You can also use this same face freeze effect to pull off some cool shots like you see in many music videos, like this one.