Multi-Cam Shoot with HDR-HC1 and HV20 (Issues?)

rtbond wrote on 4/21/2008, 11:55 AM
I am planning a multi-camera shoot using my Sony HDR-HC1 HDV camera and a borrowed Canon HV20 HDV camera. I plan to edit in Vegas 8 Pro using Excalibur.

Does anyone see any issue in mixing HC1 and HV20 (60i mode) footage on the timeline?

Thanks!

--Rob

Rob Bond

My System Info:

  • Vegas Pro 22 Build 194
  • OS: Windows 11.0 Home (64-bit), Version: 10.0.26100 Build 26100
  • Processor: i9-10940X CPU @ 3.30GHz (14 core)
  • Physical memory: 64GB (Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 memory kit)
  • Motherboard Model: MSI x299 Creator (MS-7B96)
  • GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC ULTRA (Studio Driver Version =  536.40)
  • Storage: Dual Samsung 970 EVO 1TB SSD (boot and Render); WDC WD4004FZWX, 7200 RPM (media)
  • Primary Display: Dell UltraSharp 27, U2723QE, 4K monitor with 98% DCI-P3 and DisplayHDR 400 with Dell Display Manager
  • Secondary Display: LG 32UK550-B, entry-level 4k/HDR-10 level monitor, @95% DCI-P3 coverage

Comments

DSCalef wrote on 4/21/2008, 1:42 PM
I have never shot with either camera. But I have a suggestion that should help.

Be sure to shoot a few seconds of a color bar chart under the lighting that you subjects will be in. And a few seconds of greyscale on each camera. Charts for each camera located at same spot and close to same time as possible so that you can later match up the charts with your color corrector in Vegas. The greyscale is likely what you will use to adjust, but the color charts will give you confidence in your tracks from each camera.

I use two Z1s and an A1 for a third wide cover shot occasionally. The above is what I do. I do charts on both Z1s after I white balance each camera in a 2-camera shoot. B&H and Markertek each have inexpensive small charts to carry in your camera case.

Hope that is helpful.

David S. Calef

EventVideoTeam.com
nolonemo wrote on 4/21/2008, 1:55 PM
FYI, cheap sets of Canon color patch card and grey card are available on eBay - $10 shipped. Haven't seen them in the flesh....

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blink3times wrote on 4/21/2008, 2:37 PM
I have the HC3 and the HV20.

They don't mix well together on the time line without color corrections, as well as audio adjustments.

The video from the HC3 has brighter color than the HV20 and the audio is a slightly higher tone in the HV20. The audio isn't that big a deal since you usually use the audio from one cam or the other. But you will most likely have to dull down the color on your HC1, and do a bit of experimenting before your first real shoot.
rtbond wrote on 4/21/2008, 6:52 PM
Thanks for all the responses

DSC, in your reply you state:

"Be sure to shoot a few seconds of a color bar chart under the lighting that you subjects will be in. "

If the recording is of a live performance under theatrical lighting (i.e., lighting that is higher variable), how does one typically deal with lighting the color chart test shot?

Thanks!

--Rob

Rob Bond

My System Info:

  • Vegas Pro 22 Build 194
  • OS: Windows 11.0 Home (64-bit), Version: 10.0.26100 Build 26100
  • Processor: i9-10940X CPU @ 3.30GHz (14 core)
  • Physical memory: 64GB (Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 memory kit)
  • Motherboard Model: MSI x299 Creator (MS-7B96)
  • GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC ULTRA (Studio Driver Version =  536.40)
  • Storage: Dual Samsung 970 EVO 1TB SSD (boot and Render); WDC WD4004FZWX, 7200 RPM (media)
  • Primary Display: Dell UltraSharp 27, U2723QE, 4K monitor with 98% DCI-P3 and DisplayHDR 400 with Dell Display Manager
  • Secondary Display: LG 32UK550-B, entry-level 4k/HDR-10 level monitor, @95% DCI-P3 coverage