I'll shut up now.

Kelly, I'm kinda hopin' this is another spoof on ZG. If not, this forum is officially starting to go downhill.

M

You know my problem with all of this is now people are just making stupid posts for no other reason than to make stupid posts.

It's getting stupid.

Stupid? Maybe so, but you get my point.

This out Zips Zippy. Gad!
Barry

Actuatly, this could be a relevant post. Think about it:

Sony Inc. owns Sony Music, Sony Electronics, and Sony Pictures Digital.

Sony Electronics makes mini-disc players. Promotes by saying you could make your own music mixes on minidisc and take to party for others (more then just 2-3 people) to dance to.

Sony Music says that doing that is illegal (playing your music for non-personal use, in public party, copyright infrigment). Sony Legal hasn't sued Sony Electronics. This could be understood that breaking the copyright music laws is OK if you copy music on sister company hardware for use on sister company hardware. Who/how many people you play it to doesn't matter.

Sony Pictures Digital is a sister company of Sony Music, so why shouldn't us Sony Pictures Digital Vegas, Acid, Soundforge users be alowed to use Sony Music music if it's being edited on SPD Vegas/Acid/Soundforge?

Wierd, but it's a good question.

Ok, I guess my attempt at parody was poorly received. I’ve been tediously scanning and retouching old photographs (now on number 132) and after many hours of this my brain is apparently misfiring. I sincerely apologize to the forum for the inappropriate post. For the record, I do think that the whole music licensing process needs a facelift.

RE: TheHappyFriar's post

On another thread I posted a quote from Sony that is very relevant to what you posted above. I do not know if you had read my post, or the quote, or were just being ironic. Either way - sccccaaarrryyy kids. :)

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Howard Stringer, CEO and Chairman of Sony America, says: "If you can put the electronic company together with the music company and the games company and the movie company - all content that can be married to Sony networked devices - than you have got a company that cannot be ingnored."

Filmy, i was being serious. The copyright laws need to be revised, and noone is going to be happy with what happens.

But, as for the quote, I see what he said as what's wrong with America today: everyone/body is trying to do everything, very few specializing in 1 specific field anymore. IE: Sony makes consumer electronics, music, movies, TV, video games, etc. Nintendo makes games. Companies are just getting to big, and the laws concerning copyrights and such are becoming confusing (like Sony Electronics can promote copying music on their minidisc players but Sony Music sues us if we do).

id Software has a simple policy: You CAN NOT use any if art/graphics/story/model/etc. from any one of their games in any other game, including theirs (except the game it came from), for any reason. A couple Doom to Quake addons (except Quake 3, which contained the Doom stuff in it) have been canceled (aka Foxed) because of this (with a simply e-mail, no messy stuff), but it's clear.

Good question to ponder while smoking weed, drinking moonshine, and sitting around in your underwear, but the truth is, while it's a parent company (sony) they are also independent. You think the guys at Sony Broadcast are going to get away with using video from a Sony Pictures project without complete copyright clearances? Think again. I've been there. Even just yesterday, it was funny watching Disney do clearances for projects that Disney-owned companies have done. For a 1.5 second cue, it took nearly 2 days to get the clearances written in a clear fashion for the lawyers. (BTW, film is Hidalgo, music by James Newton Howard, due out in March. Some of the music was cut in Vegas)

A button would be a great idea. Here in Holland you have to let some institution know which music you are using (Author, length etc.). I would be very happy with a button that opens up a form that I can fill out and send electronically to that institution.

A great way to not forget it!

:)

So where's that "facelift" button?

Spot, i know what you mean with the internal copyright permissions. But, Sony Music could sue you or me by doing what Sony Electronics said you could do with their mini disk players. Napster got shut down by the big music companies for letting people share music files (legal and illegal) , so how come the electronic companies don't get shut down for providing people a way to copy music illegaly (and promoting it)?

just seems silly to me (the whole music industy does to! :) )