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TheHappyFriar wrote on 6/27/2004, 9:15 PM
That's why i'm going through the trouble.

Didn't realize ASCAP couldn't do a sync. Time to contact someone else. :) Thanks!
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/27/2004, 9:58 PM
> Time to contact someone else. :)

The "someone else" are the four publishers I listed. They hold the rights. The links I provided to ASCAP and BMI will give you their addresses, phone numbers, and contact names.

~jr
apit34356 wrote on 6/27/2004, 10:15 PM
Access to Music, books and video copyright permissions should have a simple procedure and pricing information clearing house for the public. Today's demands for production, small and large, is vastly greater than 10 years ago, and today's structure only slows or causes poeple to made bad choices because of the above. Large studios with the staff of attys and interims, don't mind the paperwork. Congress needs to rewrite the copyright law for a central clearinghouse for processing requests and passing payments,(if needed). It may un employ a few thousand lawyers..... a tear forms oh so slowly......
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/28/2004, 1:28 PM
This has been discussed many times on this forum. The problem with syncing music to video is that you are making a derivative work. So licensing the right to use someone else’s music will probably involve a few questions to see if the publisher/artist agrees with the usage in the new work. It is very easy to change the meaning of a song by syncing it to video images that suggest something entirely different.

This limits the ability to standardize the process as one publisher may object to their music being used by the fur industry, or porn industry, or certain other causes to which they object. Since you as an artist are identified by your music, you have to be careful how you let other people use it. Otherwise I agree with you 100%. If we could automate the licensing for the majority of use that would be a giant step forward. I think the UK and Oz aleady have something like this. It’s time for the US to join the 21st century. ;-)

~jr
Spot|DSE wrote on 6/28/2004, 1:44 PM
Large studios with the staff of attys and interims, don't mind the paperwork.
Really? Try telling that to the folks at Virgin and BMG. They wish it were easier too.
dvdude wrote on 6/28/2004, 2:09 PM
>" I think the UK and Oz aleady have something like this. It’s time for the US to join the 21st century"

I wholeheartedly agree and, at the same time, bump this thread. :o)

It's an important issue for many, one that I keep expecting to move forward any day now.......
dvdude wrote on 6/28/2004, 2:12 PM
Now matter how much I hear that this is impossible to do for various reasons, I also keep hearing that it's already a done deal in other parts of the world. Why is that?
Spot|DSE wrote on 6/28/2004, 2:17 PM
Oz and the UK have something like this, and it's great for small users like wedding videographers. But if you're doing mass reproduction, they don't have it nailed either. Doing 50 or a couple hundred units is one thing. Doing a couple thousand is another.
apit34356 wrote on 6/28/2004, 2:51 PM
One should attain or read the congressional records of congress hearings on the Copyright laws, the film industry and lawyer associations seem to be against a central clearing house approach..... or maybe thier arguments were misunderstood? A little humor, maybe a EBAy type bidding for use.......
dvdude wrote on 6/28/2004, 6:59 PM
>"Oz and the UK have something like this, and it's great for small users like wedding videographers. But if you're doing mass reproduction, they don't have it nailed either. Doing 50 or a couple hundred units is one thing. Doing a couple thousand is another. "

That's precisely my point. If you're doing medium to large runs of a single derivative work, there is already a mechanism in place. It's not very efficient. It's tedious and requires research. You may not get the permission you seek - but at least it can be done.

It's the small event people that are left out in the cold. I just don't see why such an obvious facility isn't already a reality here. If it's considered inappropriate for the studios and publishers to handle - fine - let an independent body take care of it. After all, I'm sure MCPS at least break even now and then.

I happen to believe that event videography is important. Not because the content has the potential to reach the minds and hearts of the masses, but because, done well, it can reach the minds and hearts of a few. SORRY, I'm drifting off topic.....

Pay a license fee to a central body that allows me to use commercial music legally in a small run production done for private showing. Man - I guess I must be dreaming huh?
garo wrote on 6/28/2004, 10:30 PM
They have that in Sweden - it's called STIM and allows you to perform covers of other peoples music at festivals (otherwise illiegal over here) but you also have to pay them for playing the radio in your store. A typical song will cost you about $100 though to use on a DVD production - all music that is copywrited for Sweden is "accessable" in this matter.
A recent video of mine; http://www.algonet.se/~gwarner/video.htm
A Quciktime version is on the video window.
//Garo
MNJ wrote on 6/29/2004, 12:02 AM
Pay a license fee to a central body that allows me to use commercial music legally in a small run production done for private showing. Man - I guess I must be dreaming huh?

www.Magnatune.com does this for their artists. Too bad there aren't more site slike magnatune to expand the musical possibilities
cndavis wrote on 6/30/2004, 12:48 AM
freeplaymusic.com is one of the best sites I have found for video editing music. It's really geared for video editors with lots of different types of music at different lengths of time (10 secs, 15 secs, 60 secs...). Also, the production quality is really excellent.

Despite the site's name, it's not exactly free to use. However, there are several circumstances where it might be free -- I believe broadcasting on TV qualifies, as does video for educational purposes to be used in a classroom. Check their terms of use. Even if you did have to pay, their web site is excellent and it doesn't look like it would be difficult to obtain permission.

Also, they seem to be very accommodating there. I had thought about entering a contest using a piece of music from freeplaymusic. I wrote them to find out what this would cost. The man who wrote back was very nice and told me that I didn't have to pay anything unless I won. If I won, then I could pay them I think it was 10 or 15% of my winnings.

Anyway, if you haven't checked them out, do so!