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PH125 wrote on 11/17/2004, 8:43 PM
Nice, very good angles and cuts. And what is that song from? i can't remember lol.
Grazie wrote on 11/17/2004, 9:06 PM
Gem! . . . I am still spellbound by your work .. . very beautiful indeed. . .. I often think I should take up something else other than video work! Love your presets . .any chance in sharing? We DID have a thread about this - yeah?

Best regards,

Grazie
GmElliott wrote on 11/17/2004, 9:16 PM
lol...yeah over at DVinfo. I actually didn't use any of my effects packages on this one.
johnmeyer wrote on 11/17/2004, 10:03 PM
Oh my, this is awfully good. I can't begin to describe my appreciation for your work. I will always be a technician, but you, sir, are an artist.

Now, the technician in me can't help but ask two questions:

How do you create those beautiful, smooth camera moves? You had some that were extreme close-ups moving over her dress, etc., and then you had others moving down the center of the aisle. Handheld? Steadi-cam?

The other question is, how did you do your slow motion? I can't believe this was done in Vegas, but if it was, I am astonished.

Oh wait, one more question: What is the secret to getting that film-like depth of field?
djwolf wrote on 11/17/2004, 11:06 PM
your link is broke!
djwolf wrote on 11/17/2004, 11:08 PM
I am sorry the link was not broke.....I spoke to soon....see learn from this...always make sure before you post...sorry again I am stupid
stepfour wrote on 11/18/2004, 5:51 AM
Beautiful clip. Best wedding work I have ever seen. Honestly.
GmElliott wrote on 11/18/2004, 6:36 AM
Oh my, this is awfully good. I can't begin to describe my appreciation for your work. I will always be a technician, but you, sir, are an artist.
Thank you kindly.

Now, the technician in me can't help but ask two questions:

How do you create those beautiful, smooth camera moves? You had some that were extreme close-ups moving over her dress, etc., and then you had others moving down the center of the aisle. Handheld? Steadi-cam?
I have a glidecam 4000 but never use it. Every shot in this clip was handheld accept for the vertical pan of the church front. I feel camera dollys and crane moves are more dynamic than locked down pan and tilts. Thus the reason I put a great deal of emphasis on my handheld style.

The other question is, how did you do your slow motion? I can't believe this was done in Vegas, but if it was, I am astonished.
Yes, Vegas 5 only. I don't have any scientific method- just ctrl+drag...so the slow motion clips are probably all different speeds. I don't go by #'s I go by the way it looks. If it looks too slow I'll back off and ctrl+drag the opposite way again- speeding it up a bit.

Oh wait, one more question: What is the secret to getting that film-like depth of field?
Open the iris! The wider the iris the shallower the depth of field. Now doing this outdoors will create a horribly over exposed image. Simply use the ND filters and or your shutter to achieve the correct exposure while leaving the iris wide open.



Thanks.


RalphM wrote on 11/18/2004, 7:05 AM
WOW !!
I'm not easily impressed, but I AM impressed by your work.

Were the angled pans shot that way or were they rotated in Vegas?
jkrepner wrote on 11/18/2004, 8:31 AM
Almost makes me want to get married.
Tom Pauncz wrote on 11/18/2004, 8:37 AM
Just plain gorgeous!
BTW .. what was the music? Sounds very familiar.
Tom
GmElliott wrote on 11/18/2004, 9:53 AM
WOW !!

All the rolling dutch/pans were done by hand with the acception of two shots...the cu of the bride smiling was pan crop- and there was one other but I don't have the project in front of me. I'm writing a response from work.
bunyabunya wrote on 11/18/2004, 12:11 PM
That's the most amazing video i have ever seen, for some reason. I have watched it about ten times and cried every time...just remarkable.
GmElliott wrote on 11/18/2004, 1:17 PM
Are you serious- wow. Thank you kindly.
Steve Mann wrote on 11/18/2004, 1:58 PM
I like the framing, the timing and most of the angles. But. I am an old fart and I think that overuse of the Dutch Roll only makes the viewer seasick.
GmElliott wrote on 11/19/2004, 6:09 AM
Yeah I know what you mean. I do feel they were used a bit gratuitously. Though it doesn't help that my assistant shot the groom prep footage and was constantly turning the camera trying to emulate my shooting style.
TomE wrote on 11/19/2004, 6:35 AM
I loved this! I am trying to get together with a friend and gear up to do weddings next summer. Very inspirational

My only remark is probably the choice of music. I think it probably depends on the personality of the Bride and Groom but it conjured up images of Lord of the Rings or even Braveheart for me and the music was almost too melancholy at times.

Its as if they are suiting up for battle. Which is fun if thats what was discussed with the Bride and Groom.

It almost makes the thing look a little like a commercial for some wedding related product--like a tuxedo rental or something. (or a jewelry retailer)

I am curious about this. I am sure I am the only one who feels this way and the last thing I want to do is be a critic of something that I really liked and that I will attempt on my own.

Would you share a bit about the process? Did you discuss this with the Bride and Groom? Is this meant to be a promo for your services? How did they react to it? Was it humorous to them to be "suiting up for battle"? Or did they have other emotional reactions to it?

The camera work and slowmos and the white dress to the white cans of mousse ---it all worked beautifully --the visuals are just awesome. The heavy drums during the stain glass windows and the statuary is a little much I think. -- makes the religous element seem ominous --

I may just be showing how much of a dope I am --but these are my initial reactions.

Thank you for shariing this and especially filling us in with the details on your technique.

-TomE
GmElliott wrote on 11/19/2004, 7:06 AM
I loved this! I am trying to get together with a friend and gear up to do weddings next summer. Very inspirational

I've shown several other clips and had a few similar responses as yours. I tend to choose music that is VERY dramatic and heavy. Personally I feel it's more emotionally impactful than something light and airy. But that is my personal opinion. I try to make my productions more cinematic. My clients have seen my past works and hire me because they like my style- that's not to say if the client wanted something a bit less "heavy" I couldn't provide.

The camera work and slowmos and the white dress to the white cans of mousse ---it all worked beautifully --the visuals are just awesome. The heavy drums during the stain glass windows and the statuary is a little much I think. -- makes the religous element seem ominous --

It's funny you say that because it shows how much videography and art in general is subjective. See to me some religous elements seem somewhat ominous to me. Not necessarily in a "bad" way just very iconic and ...well, heavy. It wasn't my intention to make the religous elements scary or forboding...but rather serious and impactful.

I may just be showing how much of a dope I am --but these are my initial reactions.

Not at all. I appreciate your opinion and input. It's helpfull to me to have my work viewed by eyes other than my own. I'm intrigued by how peoples views contrast on the same piece. Thank you.
Orcatek wrote on 11/19/2004, 8:06 AM
As usual, great work. I learn a great deal about what can be done with Vegas watching your work.

You're AWESOME!

Tom Pauncz wrote on 11/19/2004, 9:03 AM
Gm,
I tend to choose music that is VERY dramatic and heavy

What was that piece of music?
Thanks
Tom
johnmeyer wrote on 11/19/2004, 9:34 AM
One quick follow-up comment, and then one more question.

I showed this to my daughter (17) and then my wife. They both had the same reaction: I want to see the wedding! I now realize you haven't yet done that part, but you "set the table" very well, and definitely left them wanting to see the rest.

Question: I am still astounded at your hand-held camera work. I asked, and you answered, about use of Steadi-Cam and you said you owned, but didn't use, such equipment. You say you have a VX-2100, and I know what that is like to hold. Do you use a shoulder or chest mount? Do you hold it in some unusual way? Are you 24 years old and not yet in the grips of pre-senile, coffee-induced, tremors? What's the secret.

Perhaps it is just skill. My daughter can play Chopin, and I can barely play chopsticks, so I realize that some people are just more skilled than others at certain things. However, if you have any secrets, beyond just being awfully good, I'd sure be happy to listen if you'd be willing to share them.

GmElliott wrote on 11/19/2004, 10:09 AM
I'm sorry it's from "DragonHeart"
GmElliott wrote on 11/19/2004, 10:16 AM
One quick follow-up comment, and then one more question.

Close I'm 27. I've always have a pretty steady hand- and actually come from a more traditional art background of illustration.
bStro wrote on 11/19/2004, 10:53 AM
Mark and Trish VonLanken have some great training material. Their handheld work blows mine away. They are actually working on releasing a training video specifically on camera holding/shooting techniques. Their website is "

A-ha! I was going to ask sometime back if anyone had tips / tutorials on how to improve handheld shooting, but I think I figured everyone would just tell me "practice, practice, practice." Thanks for answering my unasked question with a link!

Not you're probably not blushing enough already, but I find it hard to believe that their handheld work blows yours away -- this is the second wedding vid clip I've seen from you, and everything is rock solid.

Rob