My Sony Vegas 3D Nightmare

AronCamp16 wrote on 3/3/2016, 12:25 AM
I've been producing a feature-length 3D documentary for several years, mainly using the Panasonic z10000, Sony NX3D1, and occasionally synced GoPros.

I've been using Vegas for what, 15-years? And since Day 1 of Vegas' 3D features, I have never been able to display and edit 3D reliably. Truly, it's been hell.

Freeware 3D video apps work just fine, but Vegas? Nah.

Now I've gone and upgraded my PC to a $6K Origin laptop - and of course, nothing works now.

Guys, I have one of the most powerful workstation-class laptops in the world, with a bajillion-dollar NVIDIA Quadro 5100M video card, and a Philips NVIDIA G-Sync 3D monitor. I can't get the latest version of Vegas to display 3D video to save my life - but Stereoscopic Player?! No problem!

There is next to ZERO info online regarding Sony Vegas - NVIDIA 3D Vision post-production workflow.

Somebody. Please. HELP.

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Wolfgang S. wrote on 3/3/2016, 1:21 AM
For s3D Vegas requires a Quadro - and you have installed a Quadro. So that should work with nvidia 3D vision.

The monitor is nvidia 3D vision compatbile? I think it is.

Either you have an issue in how to set the parameters for Vegas - that must be done in the nvidia settings; or you have an issue that Vegas is not compatible any more with your modern hardware. But most likely it will be the first point - since it is not soo easy to set the parameters right.

I have also switched on my new system with nvidia 3D vision to a Quadro 2000 - and now replaced it with the Quadro K4200. I will try to bring that the K4200 to work in the next days - so we could compare settings in detail in the next few days (even if time is a constrain on my side).

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * GTX 3080 Ti * Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * Atomos Sumo * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Blackmagic Pocket 6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED (H7600, 12th Gen Intel) with internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor

DiDequ wrote on 3/4/2016, 11:49 AM
Hello,
I'm a french user, I alos use Vegas 13 and Nvidia 3D vision with YOUR panasonic camera.

It does work.
First, I assume you can display a 3D picture with Stereo photo maker ( using F8 )
(you have setup the page flip option to 3D vision, screen size.)

Now, Vegas Pro :
Your project properties is set to Side by side - full
You must see only one video track.
If not, start from scratch and re import your 3D movie. Only one video track on the timeline !

Now, menu Options -> Properties :
Preview tab : Left Right
Vidéo tab : Left only (right only if you prefer)

Simply hit the blue icon ( a monitor) to display your video with Nvidia 3D vision.

I'm running Windows10, but, that was working under Seven !

Hope this helps !
Didier.


Wolfgang S. wrote on 3/5/2016, 4:22 AM
The correct setting for nvidia 3D vision in the preview is "left and right". The project properties must be a 3D setting and it does not matter what 3D setting it is (beside the fact that there is a bug in Vegas where some combinations with preview/project settings deliver buggy previews).

I have tried it on my new pc - the K 4200 quadro works fine here, similar good as my old pc. So modern quadros seems to work in Vegas. I assume it is a setting issue maybe.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * GTX 3080 Ti * Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * Atomos Sumo * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Blackmagic Pocket 6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED (H7600, 12th Gen Intel) with internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor

Wolfgang S. wrote on 3/7/2016, 7:41 AM
No answer any more by the TO - so that seems to be not important at all.

Even if that seems to be an old issue for the TO:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?Forum=4&messageid=786896

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * GTX 3080 Ti * Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * Atomos Sumo * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Blackmagic Pocket 6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED (H7600, 12th Gen Intel) with internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor

AronCamp16 wrote on 3/26/2016, 12:49 AM
Thanks for getting back to me you guys, I just had the opportunity to re-address this as I've been travelling.

Yes, my monitor is a Philips 272G5DY "Nividia G-Sync" 3D monitor. My video card is an Nvidia Quadro K5100m - 3D video files run fine under this Nvidia configuration when played back in the application Stereoscopic Player.

I'm running the latest version of Vegas, and I'm quite savvy with all of the settings in Vegas required for 3D playback. I've tried all the settings you mentioned many times and many ways - yet I have never seen 3D in Vegas itself. That is, I've never seen it in Vegas, on this computer.

I have run Nvidia 3D in Vegas on another system, but it never worked properly and was exasperating to deal with. I'll run through all the settings for the upteenth time ASAP, but my concern is that Vegas is not supporting Nvidia 3D.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 3/26/2016, 5:28 AM
That is wrong. I run here Vegas with nvidia 3D vision sucessfully. Vegas supports nvidia 3D vision since Vegas 11 i think.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * GTX 3080 Ti * Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * Atomos Sumo * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Blackmagic Pocket 6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED (H7600, 12th Gen Intel) with internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor

AronCamp16 wrote on 8/19/2016, 12:55 AM
Sincere thanks for your help going back a while, guys. I've now been working exclusively in 2D for more than a year on a 3D feature documentary. It's lame.

On my end, I'm considering buying a new system, as I have never seen Sony Vegas 13 display 3D via my NVIDIA Quadro K5100m video card. Never. It's a maxed-out $5500. laptop. Before I bought this thing I was using a Dell PC with a GTX 570 - and this did technically work, it displayed 3D properly, but it was kludgy (if I clicked the timeline for any reason, 3D video preview would drop) because of course I needed a Quadro. Ah, the Quadro. Yes.

Again, the application Stereoscopic Player - practically a freeware app - plays NVIDIA 3DVision effortlessly on my K5100m from a variety of 3D cameras (Panasonic, Sony, GoPro). That tells me the problem is Vegas.

Of course, I have tried all the recommended settings in every post I have ever read on the subject (and there is very little information available on 3D workflow in Sony Vegas). I have seen the proper settings work on another PC, so I get it - I've done that. But on this machine those settings don't work.

My last hope is that there might be a custom setting possible within NVIDIA Control Panel > 3D Settings > Manage 3D Settings > "Select A Program To Customize". But I have messed with this plenty, and no luck.

Is it possible that Vegas just doesn't play nice with the NVIDIA Quadro K5100m?